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Zone system

Discussion in 'Everything Film' started by Benchista, Jan 1, 2002.

  1. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Delightful to read Roger Hicks' debunking of the zone system in this week's AP. I never could see how people applied it to multiple shot film formats, and I never could really see the point either. Glad I'm in good company!

    Nick NRIPN
    Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
     
  2. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    Agreed. Roger's method of spot-metering the darkest area in which he wants detail, and applying c2 stops underexposure seems far more sensible for rolls of film.

    I have discovered photography. Now I can kill myself. I have nothing else to learn. (Picasso)
     
  3. dogbyte

    dogbyte In the Stop Bath

    Ah - the monacled mutineer (sorry, spell checkers off). I suprised myself by understanding the article. His last one about scanning black & white left me cold.

    Pete
    Not waving but drowning, gulp
     
  4. David Stout

    David Stout Well-Known Member

    Not read the article but my knowledge of the zone system tells that the exposure and subsequent development is based on a per-shot basis and therefore not really applicable to anything beyond cut film. However, other compromises may be used for 35mm and rollfim to give a similar effect.

    David
     
  5. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    In these days of multi pattern metering cameras it all seems terribly antiquated anyway!

    BigWill
     
  6. David Stout

    David Stout Well-Known Member

    Regardless of camera metering systems, you still have the problem that a film can record a 7 stop tonal range while a photographic paper can only record a 5 stop tonal range hence the need for dodging and burning to extract all the detail from the neg and get it onto the paper.

    The zone system uses a combination of exposure and processing to compress or expand the tonal range of the scene to make it fit 5 stops worth on the film so that, in theory, you can make a straight print without any messing around in the darkroom.

    A fancy metering system won't do that for you.

    David
     
  7. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    What's all this "antiquated" dodging and burning caper anyway David. Us digital darkroom dudes gave all that up years ago! (That BigWill, He gets a film scanner and suddenly he's Mr.Digital!) /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    BigWill
     
  8. dogbyte

    dogbyte In the Stop Bath

    Never mind Will, you can always get one back on Dave if he ever needs a lift in your company vehicle ..... now where do those electrodes go?

    Pete
    Not waving but drowning, gulp
     
  9. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Dunno, every time I put them on I keep picking up BBC2 on the monitor screen!

    Big(This man's got the worst case of the "Terry Wogans" I've ever seen!)Will
     
  10. Col. Hogan

    Col. Hogan Well-Known Member

    Isn't that the truth!

    Diane
     
  11. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Almost forgot to wish my darling Diane a happy new year! Happy new year Diane! XOXO
    BigWill
     
  12. dogbyte

    dogbyte In the Stop Bath

    I heard it was Jerry Springer and "My husband spends hours in the bathroom playing with his D30". We know you were really trying to pick up the other Jerrie though

    Pete
    Not waving but drowning, gulp
     
  13. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Ah how true Pete, I've been trying to pick up the delectable Jeri Lynn for years. Someday she'll weaken though and BigWill will be in like flint! Well, I can dream can't I!

    Big(Jeri babe, if you're listening out there, it could be you and me in 2002!)Will
     
  14. Col. Hogan

    Col. Hogan Well-Known Member

    Thanks Will!

    Diane IRIPN
     

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