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Wife in hospital after 2nd heart attack.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Pete Bony, May 4, 2019.

  1. Pete Bony

    Pete Bony Well-Known Member

    Yes Nige there is an update but I forgot to post it. The hospital have temporarily discharged Marlene. They have put her on loads of different medication and we have a nurse who comes to see Marlene daily. They sent her home while they are waiting to get her in Manchester Royal for stress tests (On an exercise bike) and they will then do an MRI scan as they believe that is some dead tissue on the bottom of her heart. The consultant has again said that a bi-pass will be the best option for her and if she gets any chest pains at all she must call 999 and they will almost certainly operate straight away.
    There is an enquire going on about the duty doctor who came to see Marlene and they have promised to let me know of what progress the enquiry is making. I made is very very clear that I would not allow this neglectful behaviour from this "doctor" to be swept under the carpet.
    They discharged Marlene on Thursday which was the best birthday present they could have given me even though I am getting "housewives hands" and Harley will not leave Marlene's side
  2. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Glad to hear she is home. Hope everything is OK going forward. Try not to get too stressed at the moment with the potential negligence aspect, don’t let it take over, Marlene’s and your well being is more important
  3. Pete Bony

    Pete Bony Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean and I am trying to stay focussed on Marlene's well being. I should have added in my last post that the consultant has said that one of the stents that they put in back in 2013 is "furred up" and there is a partial blockage in her left descending artery.
    Marlene has told the consultant that if there is a choice she would prefer a bi-pass rather than more stents. as she feels that a bi-pas is a more permanent solution to the problem and the consultant has agreed that a bi-pass op would be more beneficial to Marlene than more stents.

    I ought to add that our sister in law is a staff nurse who is off sick at the moment with a fractured sternum from a car accident (Which was not her fault, it was a hit and run) is also popping in regularly to "keep an eye on things" and the consultant has made it quite clear that if Marlene gets any chest pains we MUST phone 999 straight away and they will get Marlene straight in to Manchester Royal and operate straight away.
    Last edited: May 11, 2019
  4. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    What's that all about?

    Must say I thought there were several aspects of my treatment last year that were absolutely woeful and added significantly to the problem.
  5. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    I know it is different but when my mother in law died as a result of negligence it totally consumed my wife and really was not healthy.
  6. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    I've been there and am not going to revisit that time - but enough to say is that justice (?) never seems to be the end result. Lessons to be learnt just don't cut the heartache.
  7. Pete Bony

    Pete Bony Well-Known Member

  8. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Sounds like a very sloppy one.

    Heart issues are very common and should be top of mind. Mine at least was very rare, so I could understand one GP missing it. Thankfully I went to another for a second opinion and she sent me to hospital, although she got the diagnosis wrong. I called that practice when I came out of hospital, to tell the second GP what it actually was (in case of any interest / learning) and was told she was a locum and they were not interested in whatever it really was.

    Less excusable were the OT and PT therapists who didn't even bother to download up a pdf that is for them to follow and explains the awful pain I had and how to treat it. They all just told me it must be an injury I came in with, so not up to them.
  9. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    We were very lucky in regards to my MIL. We got all of her notes from the hospital. Even though she had been treated for cancer, it wasn’t that that killed her, albeit there was a relation. Luckily my wife’s cousin is a consultant oncologist and is very high up in her field. She read the notes and went with my wife for a meeting at the hospital. My wife said to see the hospital staffs faces when her cousin came in was a picture. That massively helped us.
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  10. LesleySM

    LesleySM Well-Known Member

    I had and still have a lot of unhappiness about the district nurses that cared for Dave for nearly 2 years, incidents where they didn't show up, where they ignored the consultants care plan and the messes we had with OT and the physiotherapy teams (The physiotherapists were great and he made a lot of progress but the manager decided he could only have 8 sessions then had to get another referral and go back on the waiting list even though the physiotherapists thought another few sessions would have done the trick) but in the end I just let it go it wouldn't change a thing after all
  11. Bazarchie

    Bazarchie Well-Known Member

    Did you win the case, although win is not the right word?
  12. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    If you are referring to me, then yes. All we wanted was an apology and reassurance that the same thing would not happen to someone else. We did not employ a solicitor or any no win no fee company. We never once mentioned compensation. The hospital concerned offered a payment. It was relatively big, and I dare say could have been considerably higher. We didn’t push for more as my wife really didn’t want to as in the meantime she lost her father too. The mere fact that they offered money and comments made, was for her an admission. My MIL and her father before her were chairs of a local charity. They now benefit from the money and there is a financial award every year in her name to someone within the community that the charity helps.
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  13. LesleySM

    LesleySM Well-Known Member

    I'm still thinking about it....

    He was discharged from hospital on the 11th of April with a treatment plan and the consultant said he would get a routine follow-up appointment , which the consultant reckoned he'd be able to get to on his own because by then he would be at least reasonably mobile. Two days later he had a visit from the tissue viability team and their plan was getting him ready for physiotherapy in 4-5 weeks.....

    Enter the district nurses....

    They wouldn't even read the treatment plan from either the consultant or the tissue viability team. Their attitude was "We do it MY way what do these people know I've been doing this for years!"

    Best summed up by his nurse the incredibly inaptly named "Patience". First visit (And I had to kick off to get that) she did the whole "What does this doctor and nurse with a degree know? I know what's best!" routine then put on the dressings so tight he was in agony for three days and even the next nurse agreed. (she covered for Patience once and I thought she had a lot of common sense)

    At the end she asked if she could wash her hands so I pointed her towards the bathroom. A lot of nurses used that basin so I always made sure it was clean. Next thing she comes flying out the bathroom and shouts .....


    To me the core of it was the treatment the consultant recommended was potassium permangenate (forgive the spelling) soaks, back in 2007 the nurse used to set this up then go and see other patients but this time apparently it would take too long...

    I even said okay I have a few questions (I'd seen it done before)...

    How hot does the water have to be?
    How many tablets do I put in it?
    How long does he have to soak his feet for?

    That was all I needed to know and I could have done it! I know that stuff can stain your hands so okay I would need to wear rubber gloves and towels would need washed afterwards but I could have easily done it say when I got in from work and he could sit there and have his dinner whilst doing it....

    And all I got was "You need nursing training to do that"
  14. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Did you report her? If not, you should have. Her sort are dangerous.
    My own DN went spare when she heard about the DN who was seeing me when I was staying at SWMBO’s and I believe laid into her when they met, so I didn’t have to do anything. Not that I was up to it anyway.

  15. LesleySM

    LesleySM Well-Known Member

    Tried to raise the issue around her and several other nurses who took the attitude of knowing better than specialists and being resistant to even simple things....for example...Dave had to wear very thick leg dressings and couldn't pull his trousers over them on his own so it slowed me down getting him ready when I was trying to get out to work, one of the agency nurses (they were the best ones but one of them we were told (by another one) raised Dave's care or lack of at a meeting and the next day was told she was being let go at the end of the week) put on these silky covers that meant he could get his pants on without help but when I asked the regular nurse for them she said they were expensive and he didn't need them.....I said maybe not clinically but it meant I had more time in the morning and also as Dave added he felt humiliated not being able to dress himself and the reply was..

    I should give up work as it was my duty to care for him....

    One of the agency nurses said the fish was rotting from the head. The manager had her pets who got sent on local easy jobs like giving injections and wasn't interested in anything more challenging.

    The level of incompetence was staggering....

    Dave was part werewolf and proud of it. He was allergic to silver, it was written on his notes. They put some new dressings on and his legs reacted as if the dressings contained silver.

    They were scratching their heads saying "But it doesn't have silver in it" and I simply Googled the name of the dressing and silver

    The replies were a load of wound care formularies from various NHS Trusts including their own at number three....

    And they all said although there was no silver in the dressing used if it was used to oozing skin (Dave's was) then it created silver ions and it should never be applied to oozing skin if the patient had a silver allergy

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