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What grinds your gears?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by retrofit, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. DaveM399

    DaveM399 Well-Known Member

    One of the alleged reasons behind the rise in the price of gas is that the UK is burning more gas to produce electricity as the output from wind farms is down.
     
  2. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    My poor sister and her fella.
    They've been in Llandudno for a break. Loved the place, although with cancellations on the journey it took over 9 hours to get there a few days ago. Due to leave by train this morning. Cancelled again and now being bussed to Chester. What is it with the train service?? Seems a very poor service to me.
     
  3. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    British organisations pay the people who do the work as little as possible. This results in staff shortages as employees move elsewhere or simply "go sick". With something like a railway this results in various bottlenecks: engineers don't show up to service the rolling stock, linesmen don't turn up to check and repair the track, drivers and other staff find better things to do...

    Meanwhile, insult is added to the injury by unnecesary "managers" being paid far more than the people who are necessary. :mad:
     
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  4. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Aye, spikes in gas prices would appear to be part and parcel of "green" energy production. If only there was a way to produce electricity more reliably with as low a carbon footprint as wind but with less deaths per megawatt produced!

    Those who support wind energy must also be supporting fossil fuel backups.
     
  5. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Bang on, Andrew. Alternative short version: Privatisation.

    And before anyone says that (nationalised) British Rail was rubbish, ANY public service needs proper funding, to run properly. Last time I travelled around France on the (nationalised) railway, the service was excellent. The UK - as usual - tries to do everything on the cheap, with predictably feeble results. :(
     
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  6. Dorset_Mike

    Dorset_Mike Grumpy Old Fart

    [QUOTE="daft_biker, post: 1724282, member: 12169". If only there was a way to produce electricity more reliably with as low a carbon footprint as wind but with less deaths per megawatt produced!

    Those who support wind energy must also be supporting fossil fuel backups.[/QUOTE]

    (I've said this before)
    Tidal generation, we are surrounded by tidal water, tides are cyclic and predictable and always there, (unlike wind and solar!) Admittedly there is some variation betwen spring and neap tides, but it is predictable and reliable. There are short periods at high and low water when flow is less, however highs and lows do not occur at the same time at every location, think of a tide as a wave moving round the coast, when the tide is high at one place, "behind" it will be falling, "ahead" it will be rising, so generating locations should be placed a suitable distance apart. Initial installation may be higher than wind or solar but is less visible (so Mr tory moneybags can't easily say "Look what I've done")
     
  7. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    (I've said this before)
    Tidal generation, we are surrounded by tidal water, tides are cyclic and predictable and always there, (unlike wind and solar!) Admittedly there is some variation betwen spring and neap tides, but it is predictable and reliable. There are short periods at high and low water when flow is less, however highs and lows do not occur at the same time at every location, think of a tide as a wave moving round the coast, when the tide is high at one place, "behind" it will be falling, "ahead" it will be rising, so generating locations should be placed a suitable distance apart. Initial installation may be higher than wind or solar but is less visible (so Mr tory moneybags can't easily say "Look what I've done")[/QUOTE]

    Unfortunately the sea has proven to be a harsh environment and tidal generators tend to break. We're a long way off being able to power the country with it.
     
  8. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    If recent headlines prove accurate, we're probably a long way from being able to power the country. With anything. :(
     
  9. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Yes but soon we will be able to buy our fuel in gallons even if it is just virtual.
     
  10. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    The Government.
    Their response to the current shortages is to tell us not to panic, buy only what you need... guess what happens next..
     
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  11. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    At least folk can't panic buy too much fuel, they can only really get as much as the vehicle will hold, unlike the bog rolls, when folk could fill every room in the house, unless that room was filled with pasta.

    There really are some tools.
     
  12. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    I agree, but overhead a couple of guys talking in the shop.... "We're filling both cars up but every other day we'll top up even if it's only a fiver..." To which the reply was" I've filled our cars up, and I'm coming down later with the campervan and a couple of ( jerry) cans"
     
  13. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Yeah, buying in gallons will really help. o_O Still, no doubt Grease-Smog will still be able to power up his Stephenson's Rocket, and puff around the Brexit-ravaged wastelands of Britain. :(
     
  14. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Nail hit squarely on the head. I worked in an organisation where I lost track of which band 1 manager was the manager for which other band 1 managers, even more confusing with band 2 managers, I tended to go to the top I didn’t have time or inclination to find out who was really responsible. The system was such a mess that I was band 2.5 (specialist) which grade didn’t really exist. I was convinced that we didn’t need that many managers.
     
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  15. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Despite knowing absolutely nothing about the industry in which you worked, Geoff, I'd put money on you being right about this. Your observations match my experience - rather closely.
     
  16. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

  17. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Your first paragraph is not quite right. The second one is.
    Some years ago an unlicensed (now former) 'taxi' driver was sent to prison for storing petrol in a dustbin in his cellar. He was caught because neighbours smelt the fumes.
     
  18. WillieJ

    WillieJ Well-Known Member

    You beat me to it. I had no concrete example but my immediate thought was "should not" rather than "can't".
     
  19. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    The petrol station should only authorise a maximum of 20 litres in metal fuel cans, or a maximum of 10 litres in two 5 litre plastic cans. The only exception is if you have a licence to transport fuel (usually garden services, groundsmen etc.).
     
  20. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Using which railways?
     

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