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Thoughts on face masks...

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Geren, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Just remember that there are plenty of other "germs" that nobody gives two hoots about and they haven't gone away.
     
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  2. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53218704

    Here's one for you.
    Not sure what China have going, but they seem to breed some really good germs:eek:
     
  3. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

  4. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Given that France and Spain both have cases from earlier in 2019 than China had, is it fair to blame China? ;)
     
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  5. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Reported cases? Acknowledged cases? China did appear to be in denial to start with.
     
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  6. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Denial? Reported to WHO, locked down swiftly and effectively, warned the international community about it, sent huge amounts of tests, PPE etc. and promised to share freely any vaccine they could develop.
     
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  7. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Arrested a whistleblower who later died?
     
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  8. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    I don't recall him being arrested. My understanding was he leaked a report which (incorrectly) stated that there were SARS cases, when in fact we know now that it was the new virus, following which he was officially admonished. Chinese authorities subsequently exonerated him as the circumstances around the 'leaking' became clear (he didn't leak it but a colleague he shared it with did).

    Interesting that in America several corona whistleblowers/critics have been sacked without much media attention over here.

    Edit to add, Chinese doctor and several of his colleagues died of covid-19 related issues. It's not like he walked into the woods to "shoot himself" or "zipped himself in a sports holdall." :rolleyes:
     
  9. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Perhaps I'd feel more charitable if the Chinese had accepted inspection of their Lab. Still, I guess if it was the other way round, probably neither the USA nor the UK would accept that either (especially Porton Down).
     
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  10. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    And why should they? French and now Spanish scientists have now identified covid-19 in samples from as early as March 2019, so there remains zero evidence that it was a 'product' of China.
     
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  11. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    Come on, everything is manufactured in China now:D

    Maybe it was outsourced :confused:

    The UK has BSE, maybe France has a claim to Covid 19, but I doubt they'd want the honour
     
  12. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    I have read November 2019 in Italy. Where is the report from as early as March 2019? Is the report reliable?
     
  13. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

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  14. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    I looked up facemasks from Boots, which are now easily available. But their site does make it clear that are almost completely useless and really only stop bacteria.
     
  15. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

  16. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Indeed, but obviously a significant discovery if it can be confirmed.
     
  17. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    And cost a small fortune into the bargain:confused:
     
  18. SqueamishOssifrage

    SqueamishOssifrage Well-Known Member

    The cheap paper type won't stop the virus, but they should stop the fluid droplet the virus is sitting in in a cough.
     
  19. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    If the US part of the Graun is anything to go by it is not masculine to wear a face mask. Add to that 'only communists wear face masks'.....................

    Lynn
     
  20. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Rubbish. So do anarchists and many shades of freedom fighters! :rolleyes:
     
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