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The Dreaded 'CLA'

Discussion in 'Leica Camera Chat' started by Roger Hicks, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Or 'clean, lubricate and adjust'. Many people over on the Rangefinder Forum seem obsessed with these, but in well over 40 years of Leica ownership (starting in 1969 with a IIIa for which I paid £30) I've only had my cameras mucked out when there's something wrong with them. Is the 'CLA' an American obsession only or has it spread elsewhere as well?

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  2. 0lybacker

    0lybacker In the Stop Bath

    Roger,
    Think it is also linked to frequent 'acquisitions & disposals' rather than bought for (long-term) use.
    :)
    Oly
     
  3. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Could WELL be!

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  4. chris000

    chris000 Well-Known Member

    The RFF has a fairly heavy bias towards 'gear' and all things related - that said, some of the photos posted there are very, very good.

    I've owned and used a number of rangefinders for years and never had any of them CLA'd - they all still work fine.

    I'm not sure that it is really an American obsession, more of a Leica one?
     
  5. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Or American AND Leica?

    How many UK Leica owners do you know who go for a 'CLA'?

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  6. chris000

    chris000 Well-Known Member


    None ..... but then I'm careful who I mix with :D
     
  7. kshapero

    kshapero New Member

    Greetings Chaps,

    I have been photoing since the mid 70's. Started out with PEN's and Rollei's. "Graduated" to a Nikon FE, which I still have. Jumping forward I have many an RF and used them hard. 2 years ago I finally had my first CLA. It was the FE. I think after 30 years of constant use, falling into creeks, getting sand into it, etc, it had a right to the service. I have had Leica repairs but no CLA's. I think Yanks (I am one, blush), just always wants to "sure". Thus the CLA frenzy. But lets look at the other side, we know good repairmen are always in need of a few extra bucks, so this helps them.

    Shalom, Akiva
     
  8. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Shalom Akiva!

    I am honoured that your first post is on a thread I started. Yes: the idea of keeping good repairmen in business is definitely a very good idea. So instead of CLAs, let's send in all those cameras that aren't quite working properly: sticky viewfinder frames, slight vertical misalignment, that sort of thing. And LF lenses, too: gummed up slow shutter speeds, jerky or very stiff diaphragms...

    What would you (and other people on this forum) send in first if the repair were FREE?

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  9. kshapero

    kshapero New Member

    Need to get that damn speck of dust out of the viewfinder of my Voigtlander R3M that I bought 24 hours after your Shutterbug review. Love the camera but honestly don't mind the speck that got in there a few months ago.

    Adios,

    Akiva S.
     
  10. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Akiva,

    That's the FIRST thing you'd have done? Your camera gear is in a better state than mine...

    Shalom,

    R.
     
  11. Ploy

    Ploy Well-Known Member

    I don’t think you need to worry about keeping good repairmen in business. All the good Leica repairman are already extremely busy. Perhaps if some people stopped sending cameras for a ‘cla’, I might get some of my repairs done quicker!

    Peter Loy
     
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  12. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Peter,

    Ah.... Good point! Perhaps not all, but certainly very many.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  13. Ploy

    Ploy Well-Known Member

    Roger,

    If you know a good Leica repairer (or a repairer of classic cameras in general) who is not busy, please let me have their details. By 'not busy', I mean able to consistently repair a camera within a month of receiving it. The repairers I use are able to repair a camera within a week if I ask them as a favour but that’s only as a one-off – they can’t do 10 items that quickly. Some cameras or lenses can be away for several months.

    Peter
     
  14. kshapero

    kshapero New Member

    I was only just getting started. LOL.
     
  15. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Peter,

    Point well taken. Alas, no I don't -- but first, I need far fewer repairs than I used to (I use newer, more reliable gear) and second, it would be dishonest to pretend that my name does not sometimes deliver priority treatment, so I don't always know if they're busy.

    Perhaps we need a 'repair' sub-forum, with (rough) estimates of delay times. It could be construed as free advertising, but equally, it's something we all need. As do the vast majority of good repairers...

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  16. Ploy

    Ploy Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s that simple. It’s human nature to do the quick and easy jobs first and I’d be very surprised if any repairers worked on equipment strictly in the order that they received it. It’s also complicated by some repair companies having more than one repairer, who specialise in different types of equipment, and are more or less busy than each other. For example, you might get your Rolleiflex or Bessa II back within 2 or 3 weeks but could be waiting 2 or 3 months for your M3.

    However, some repairers are upfront about the delays. Peter Grisaffi (CRR, Luton) currently states on his website, “We will not be taking any repairs until the end of this year”.

    Rather than just estimates of delay times, perhaps it would be interesting and useful to hear of forum member’s experiences in general with camera repairers.

    Peter
     
  17. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    American dentists seem to occupy a different universe to mere mortals! :rolleyes:

     
  18. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Nice to see you again Tim. Hope you haven't been out for servicing :eek: ;)
     
  19. Done_rundleCams

    Done_rundleCams AP Forum Ambassador to Canada

    My fault Andy, I asked him where he'd been and, apparently, reading some books :eek: and I don't even think it was on one of the "electronic thingy's" (double :eek:)

    Cheers,

    Jack
     
  20. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Do we? Some of us are digital photographers and when equipment is out of warranty it becomes expendable.
     

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