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The Decisive Moment

Discussion in 'Exhibition Lounge' started by RovingMike, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    So continuing the variety of things where debatably, an instant, or moment, might be decisive to it being a picture or not, for me her reaction here on seeing what she was walking past, made a nice DM:

    [​IMG]P1170209 by Mike Longhurst, on Flickr

    I think there would be no DM here if his foot had not landed where it did, but is it a valid one?:

    [​IMG]P1150042 by Mike Longhurst, on Flickr

    I wanted to imply that dubious things go on in these alleys. Did her reaction make a DM that delivered that?

    [​IMG]P3251086 by Mike Longhurst, on Flickr
     
  2. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Yes exactly. The point of the post. We don't know until people post more possibles and debate ensues around whether they are, or aren't.

    Personally I think most of Tony's clearly are. Andrew's man taking a swig is not, bus queue with guy signalling is. Cat for me is not. Gray's batsman is. But until people support why they saw that moment as the instant that created the picture, we only have our own impressions to go on.
     
  3. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    That's all we ever have. There is no objectivity in these things - only subjectivity in the mind of the viewer.
     
  4. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    So if someone thinks this depicts a decisive moment, their view is valid and may not be contested? I think you know what I think of that as a POV.

    [​IMG]_9080972 by Mike Longhurst, on Flickr
     
  5. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    By George! I think he's got it. :D
     
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  6. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

  7. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    She's walkin' on sunshine...

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  8. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    First one here, no, I don't consider this a DM, merely a street scene with two barely making it into the frame. Their expressions don't make it a DM

    Second one, yes, I do consider this a DM although a relatively easy one to get. Is it valid to wait and watch? Probably, but I find it doesn't give the element of chance in the finished image.

    Third no. There's no wow! How did he/she capture that for me.
     
  9. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I suppose the real trick is to capture the decisive moment when all the angels jump off the head of the pin at once... :D
     
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  10. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    OR 11pm 31st October 2019? :rolleyes:
     
  11. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    dm santa costume girl.jpg
    Since we are getting close to that time.

    dm supermarket bikes 2.jpg

    Early, dark, visit to the supermarket. Ballet moves.
     
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    So I don't know whether these are DM's but wanted to post so I could see how others viewed them as I'm really interested in everyone's interpretation pf the decisive moment.
    For some reason, I knew that the second photo would be the only shot I would keep even though I must've photographed that corridor 50 times on that day. Does anyone get a moment when they're photographing and they just know without looking, that it is the one? I think that's an interesting point of the decisive moment.
     
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  13. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Think you are right on the first. Unless you know what she is reacting to, it is not a moment at all. But you might get it eventually.

    Again the third relies on knowing it was part of the seedier side of life, so you'd make a connection, so probably right again.

    Not sure what you mean on the second. How does anyone know I was waiting for something to happen if I don't tell them? How does easy / hard come into it? In fact it was third visit, the previous two producing nothing. It was one of the hardest.
     
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  14. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    First and third I think yes. First is really good. Not sure the glance in third is really strong enough. Second, looking at watch is not discontinuous for me. It doesn't connect to anything.
     
  15. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I have occassionally wondered if Henri Cartier-Bresson was simply pulling the leg with the bells on when he started this "decisive moment" thing. Still, I do like catching the moment when people and other animals do something arresting...

    P1230840 2 Older women and little white dog Exeter bus station.JPG
     
  16. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    I accept entirely that if someone is that dumb, it is a complete waste of time to argue with them. :)
     
  17. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    The thing is (to me) that an image which is described as a decisive moment shouldn't need the environment or circumstanced explained. For me, it should jump out of the image on its own.
     
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  18. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    That pretty much qualifies. I think he was setting a principle for a whole genre that followed. He took Street out of pure record.
     
  19. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    It has to.
     
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  20. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I also think the "decisive moment" can just be when the light catches an object in an interesting way...

    DSC02470 Airbus A400M over the Clyst Valley.JPG
     

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