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That was lucky

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by dream_police, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    I have mentioned before that my cousin works for the FCO in Beirut. I have just heard that she is OK, but 30 mins before the blast she cancelled an exercise spin class that would have been 100m from the blast site. All she suffered was broken windows in her apartment. Lucky woman.

    It was one hell of an explosion.
     
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  2. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    It was a horrific blast wasn't it? Glad she is OK.
     
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  3. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Very lucky. BBC news just broadcast video of the event but the footage is not on their website yet. That is focussing on the aftermath.
     
  4. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    So am I.

    Yeah, bloody huge. An explosive store or something.
     
  5. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    It could happen here.
     
  6. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    It could do, but it didn't today.
     
  7. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    From what I heard it started in a fireworks factory, which set fire to a benzine storage place next door.
     
  8. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Got to love town planning approvals. :confused:
     
  9. Jeff Farkas

    Jeff Farkas Well-Known Member

    Good to hear that she's ok.
     
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  10. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Bloody nora, just seen the footage. Fortunate indeed.
     
  11. Craig20264

    Craig20264 Well-Known Member

    You can tell it’s a pretty violent explosion from the mushroom cloud!
    Glad she’s ok
     
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  12. Jeff Farkas

    Jeff Farkas Well-Known Member

    CNN's corespondent in the city reported that it felt like an earthquake.
     
  13. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    That was one seriously large explosion. The blast wave was gobsmacking.
    Assuming it was something like SXH said, people really need their heads clanging together.
    I used to live in Kings Lynn, where Fison used to have a fertiliser factory.
    The two buildings that housed the ingredients were big F#*k off concrete structures, sunk into the ground with tapered concrete blast walls, away from anywhere. I would think that anyone dealing with fireworks should have something similar, so anyone who doesn't is utterly mad.
     
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  14. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    Mind-boggling! Quite a few years ago, beside the A329 (Berkshire Way) and the railway line was a British Oxegen depot which eventually was closed. God only knows what could have happened if something had happened there.
     
  15. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    There's a tweet about a ship carrying 2750 tons of ammonium nitrate, which was detained in Beirut in 2013, and the cargo unloaded.

    amnit.JPG
     
  16. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    Seen news reports that seem to confirm this.
    2750 tons of ammonium nitrate?
    I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the damn stuff - a bit of oxygen and heat and, well, the result is plain to see:(
     
  17. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    I wasn't aware that it was explosive by itself. It wouldn't need oxygen; it is an oxidising agent. I wonder if someone had been soaking it in diesel.
     
  18. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the first explosion ruptured a nearby diesel tank?
     
  19. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    Just gets unstable and breaks down - oxygen would feed it, but you are quite right that it wouldn't need extra oxygen. It is effectively an all-in-one fuel by itself. It is used to make fertiliser bombs all over the world, and just requires a heat source and a bit of air to get things going, together with a bit of fuel (sugar is a favourite with bomb makers) to kick things off.

    ...From Quora:
    Decomposition creates toxic gases containing ammonia and nitrogen oxides. ... As the temperature rises, the rate of decomposition increases. In a confined space, the pressure can reach dangerous levels and cause an explosion that will include the detonation of the ammonium nitrate.
     
  20. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    So the decomposition of the ammonium nitrate itself causes huge expansion of ammonia gas and oxides of nitrogen and heat. The heat then causes further decomposition. Further reactions between the ammonia and nitrogen oxides produce steam and nitrogen in huge volume. Adding fuel like diesel would just increase the explosive effect.
     

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