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SLR, yet another beginner!!

Discussion in 'Pentax Chat' started by bazza, Jun 27, 2001.

  1. bazza

    bazza New Member

    Another humble beginner enters the world of real photography! So your advice would be appreciated. As I attend several motor sport events I would like a camera and lenses to hopefully get some great pictures. My budget is only £450 and with that I have received two options which are the Canon eos300 with 28-90usm 70-300usm or the Pentax mz-7 with 28-80 80-320 lenses. From reading various reviews the pentax seems the better camera but the lenses not as good as Canon. Anyone with any other options would be most welcome.

    Regards

    bazza
     
  2. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    As with most of these "choosing between makes" questions, I think the best advice is to go into somewhere like Jessops and actually handle both cameras before deciding. I have no personal experience with the Pentax, but as a Canon owner, I find their handling to be second to none and in my opinion, superior to many. As for the lens issue, optically there will be very little difference although the Canon may just shade it in the AF department with it's USM motors. Try before you buy, but you will not be disappointed whichever you choose. It is a matter of personal preference.
    BigWill
     
  3. Canonball

    Canonball Well-Known Member

    Yeah Bazza, Big Will's spot on. Theres absolutely nothing between them. I have both Canon and Pentax and am pleased with both. The Canon's got a bit of an edge in terms of focusing, it may be a fraction faster but I doubt if you would detect it, but the USM lenses are VERY quiet, so by comparison the Pentax SEEMS noisy, The downside is the USM lenses cost more.
    I've got a Pentax MZ-5n which is superb, and in my opinion, has a bit of an edge in handling terms. As Will says it's basically down to personal preference, so go along and try the Canon and Pentax and make you decision based on which one 'feels' right.
    I would certainly recommend you try Jessops as they're doing the MZ-5n at only £20 more than the MZ-7. For the extra £20 it's got to be worth considering. Either way, I'm sure you'll be happy whichever one you choose.

    Geoff
     
  4. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    The Canon has 2 items of spec in it's favour - both to do with depth of field control (i.e control of what is sharp and what isn't). It has Canon's DEP programme and a depth of field preview. In my mind, ALL SLRs should have depth of field preview, and I for one wouldn't buy a camera without it.
    Apart from that, Will has stolen my speech!

    Nick
     
  5. Canonball

    Canonball Well-Known Member

    You should know by now Nick. Nowt's safe when BigWills around!/img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    Geoff
     
  6. Pentaneil

    Pentaneil Member

    Hey bazza

    I also only started photography a year ago but i have already learnt so much just by reading AP and talking to fellow AP's. I would say go for the pentax, the lenses aren't as good as cannon's BUT they cost alot less. So remember if you buy a pentax you won't have to pay so much for lenses.

    Cheers
    Neil

    Now u see me, no u don't, but my Pentax will see me even if i move at the speed of light.
     
  7. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    Sorry, don't agree with that at all ! The lens is what makes the picture, NOT the camera which is essentially a light tight box to hold film. You should always base a selection mainly on the lenses available.

    Get out and get shooting!!
     
  8. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Tim is (as usual!) right - but Pentax lenses aren't at all bad. ANY cheap lenses aren't worth buying, and the Limited Edition Pentax lenses are among the best SLR lenses ever made.

    Nick CRIPN
     
  9. peter

    peter New Member

    As a keen Amteure of some 20 years.I can only offer Three peices of invaluble advice.Try to keep both eyes open during action shots.Plan ahead put yourself and the camera in the best possable position for the shot,you might only get one shot. Finaly....Try not to wince when you open your bank statment after visiting your local photography shop. Good luck.

    Peter
     
  10. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    as a choice between the pentax and the canon,well,when choosing my first AF camera i was stuck between a pentax and the canon eos 300.the thing i like about the 300 is the ability to select your own focus points,absentt in the new MZ6

    click,whirr,i got a free roll of HP5 and im not afraid to use it <img src="/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif">
    Larry MRIPN
     
  11. Tommy

    Tommy Well-Known Member

    Between the two, especially for motor sport where you’ll need reliable focus to get your pictures, I'd go for the Canon. Having just got rid of my MZ-7 because of issues with focusing, IMHO I think the Canon would be by far the better bet.

    For a few extra pennies though, as has already been suggested, you might like to take a look at the MZ-5N, which is a stonkingly good camera. I’ve got an older MZ-5, which I love to bits. Handling is everything though, as suggested, so pick them up and play. The Nikon F80’s pretty good too in the same price range (as all of the rest of you are undoubtedly bored to tears with me telling the world that I’ve just bought a Nikon over a Canon I won’t bore bazza with this) <img src="/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif">


    It's not the size of your lens that matters; it's the depth of your field!
    tommy MRIPN
     
  12. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    I wouldn't worry Tommy. Bazza hasn't posted here since last August !!

    If he does still visit, then come on and join in. /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
     
  13. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    Bazza,where are you?...
    be interesting to know what he went for in the end.

    click,whirr,i got a free roll of HP5 and im not afraid to use it <img src="/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif">
    Larry MRIPN
     

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