Yowza - thank you all for all these really helpful suggestions, feedback is great. Zou : Yup, def want a digital - just easier for me these days, though still have my Dad's old film SLR! Atavar : Cannot find HP cameras in any shops - only online, v strange ... not a UK popular brand? Not based in London, so not great deal choice here in the West Country. Still looking at websites Have been pondering over last few days about my actual needs - thinking perhaps the whole point of the "second" camera is to keep it in the pocket to whip out as and when - so am thinking compromising on manual functions for something that is literally with me all the time. In all reality, if i was looking to spend time altering manually, it would probably be on an occasion when i would plan to have my DSLR with me anyway. Also, budget wise, thinking i really want to spend around £100 rather than put that towards something more expensive : save the expenditure for my precious DSLR ... i reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally want a macro lens, pretty please! Couple mentions from colleagues of the Canon Ixus 105 - is this a bit too basic to discuss here on this site? Am I in the wrong place saying something like that to all my helpful and friendly officionadoes out there ?? And so back to the t'interweb and more trawling - and a search for the elusive shops that stock HP compacts !