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Recycling:a backward step.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by swanseadave, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. swanseadave

    swanseadave Well-Known Member

    Swansea City Council,in its wisdom ,has decided that plastic bags and plastic film will no longer be accepted for recycling!!
    They`ve sent leaflets to every household outlining their reasoning.

    Quote:It`s becoming increasingly difficult to find outlets to recycle plastic(film and bags)

    Quote: Put film or plastic bags into black bags(land fill) NOT pink bags(the nominated colour for plastic)If the plastic doesn`t hold its shape then bin it.

    For me and many others bags etc account for about 50% of plastic.Most things today have plastic wrappings.

    To me this is a giant backward step.

    Feel free to comment.
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  2. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    The problem is if no-one can recycle the waste article (at a reasonable cost) then what are the Council to do? Cheapest option is to landfill but it's not the best option. Generally levels and standards of recycling are so wide across the country. I personally feel there should be a national standard across the board. Everyone should know exactly what to do no matter where you are in the country.
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  3. Mark101

    Mark101 Well-Known Member

    Not much that's not recycled in South Holland Lincs. We have two collections a week here, both collected in plastic bags. One day in all the recycling in a clear bag, including plastic bags, plansic film, hard plastic, tines, bottles - all in the same bag. Next day comes the household landfill collection, made in a black bag. So much cleaner, faster and efficient than all those horrible dirty eyesore wheelie bins
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  4. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    I still remember fondly Sainsbury's paper carrier bags.

    I do despair of the huge amounts of plastic still used in supermarkets. Milk would be better in glass or cartons. Greaseproof wrapping for cheeses would certainly be preferable as would meat and fish similarly wrapped. Paper only bags for fruit and vegetables.

    Oh I wish I had your collection cycle Mark! Mine is every four weeks.
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  5. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Our esteemed (!) chancellor could sort out the recycling problem by putting a tax on all packaging that isn't recycled by the retailer. Then the retailer could put a substantial deposit on the packaging (refundable of course on return) and the packaging would soon be redesigned as a reusable item.
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  6. daveben

    daveben Well-Known Member

    For years, our brown bin has been for "organic waste" - food leftovers and gardening residue. It has now been changed to garden residue only. I've yet to receive a reply as to what to do with the uneaten fruit and veg which I've grown in the garden - is it food (non-recyclable) or garden residue (recyclable)?
  7. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    Our local council has been putting the squeeze on waste collection of all types and to say it's confusing the locals is the understatement of the century. Not least because having issued instructions as to what to do, they then issued a list of exceptions, including periods that included public holidays, before completely failing to adhere to their own guidelines. I believe we now have a food waste collection every week on Wednesday, a landfill collection every three weeks on a Thursday, a recycling collection every fortnight on a Thursday and a glass collection every four weeks on a day of the week that doesn't seem to be pinned down.

    Frankly I think the issue shouldn't be that councils have to find cheaper ways, or just ways, of recycling all the packaging. We should be creating far less uncompostable packaging in the first place. If we can make bags to collect food scraps which decompose, we can wrap food in something similar, surely? Or just go back to not wrapping food so much. It infuriates me to see shrink wrapped brocolli, peppers and cucumber. Absolutely not necessary.
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  8. Craig20264

    Craig20264 Well-Known Member

    And why does my pizza come wrapped in clingfilm, perched on a polystyrene disc, all neatly encased in a cardboard box. Why in Gods name are we still producing the evil that is polystyrene? :mad: Rant off!
  9. Dorset_Mike

    Dorset_Mike Grumpy Old Fart

    I hate the way so many hardware items are in card and/or hard plastic with coloured labelling, the packaging is usually 2 or 3 times larger than necessary for the contents, so they end up needing way more transport space, also often takes ages to open. I remember being able to buy a card box of 100 screws and they filled the box, now in a package taking a similar space I'd be lucky to get a dozen, plus it would take 3 times as long to get the contents out of the packaging. The only people to gain by this are the purveyors of the packaging and the fact that more transport space is needed to move the same number of screws.

    The only argument I can see in favour of not selling loose nails, screws, hinges etc is the need for the shopkeeper/server to weigh or count out the required amount, there is one ironmongers shop I know of which still sells some loose items, been in business for 180 years - but it's a few miles away.
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  10. DaveM399

    DaveM399 Well-Known Member

    We have an old style irongmongers in Broadstairs, said to be the inspiration for the four candles sketch by the two Ronnies.
  11. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    The brown bin in my house consists of :
    1] me
    2] the dogs
    3] the compost heap.

    I've never yet had to send any edible matter to the council

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  12. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    The most magical shop in the world. If you want it, they have it. 3/8ths Gripley? No problem.

    They would even sell a single nail, although knowing the lads there, they would give it to you.


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  13. nimbus

    nimbus Well-Known Member

    There seems little rhyme or reason in terms of what is accepted for recycling and what is not. Here they accept plastic bottles, but no other plastic, even the same types, that is not a bottle.
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  14. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Our esteemed chancellor could solve many problems with the help of a bottle of whisky, a revolver and one bullet.


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  15. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    But who would it be next? I've given up hoping for sensible solutions.
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  16. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I agree. However, I fear that the major flaw in your argument is that - if we have to wait until we've got an esteemed chancellor - then your proposal is unlikely to happen any time soon. Or maybe, ever...! :rolleyes: ;)
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  17. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Yes, likewise (except that we don't have dogs :)).

    We throw out virtually nothing in food waste. Vegetable peelings etc. all go to the compost heap, while our brown bin hardly ever takes anything other than garden cuttings.
  18. 0lybacker

    0lybacker In the Stop Bath

    Can obviously be easily recycled, Dave, but wonder if they asked themselves about the energy/pollution in making & printing & distributing the leaflet? Cheers, Oly
  19. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    They haven't found an african country willing to take the stuff off their hands!?

    In Germany, most plastic bottles, glass bottles and aluminium drinks cans have a deposit on them so that the supermarkets are duty bound to take them back -they've got machines to do this- and refund the deposit. This is a source of income for the down and outs. The rest of the recycling system seems to work quite well despite persistant rumours about recyclable materials ending up in the landfill. Then again, Germany is possibly better at using incinerators to supply heating to urban areas.

  20. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    The trouble with recycling is that there is not always a commercially viable recycler in the area. My local council now charges extra for garden and food waste because way to high a proportion of grass clippings was collected to make a quality compost. A lot of recyclables end up in landfill as well, because a bulk load easily gets contaminated when you rely on Joe Public to sort for you. Again , my local council has a collection for high value recyclables like glass and metal that hand sorts as it collects.

    In our house recycling bins consist of glass, metal, plastic bottles and hard plastic food containers. Food waste like veg peelings and anything small and combustible ends up on the Rayburn.

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