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Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by MickLL, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    I hope that you are not trying to lose weight. Each cookie (approx 25g) contains 126kcal. A 200g box 990kcal. They are high in fat, saturates and sugars.
     
  2. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    As do Tesco however had I stayed it would have been for 16-20 hours contracted and I would have to commit to being available for overtime. Not sure what the policy is on the overtime requests but those on flexi-contracts could get 24 hours notice of a change in shift and 3 refusals and you were out, IIRC.
     
  3. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    Notwithstanding the fact that everyone needs money to live, no business has a fundamental right to exist. A business, by design in the world of capitalism should fail and cease to trade if it can't make a profit.

    Sadly, it means people who are most impacted by the loss if income ultimately end up being impacted. I am continually saddened by the reality that the higher up the decision tree you are, and so in theory, the more accountable you are, for the success of a company the less personally impacted you are by its failure. This perhaps for me is the greatest injustice of the pyramid structure.
     
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  4. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    According to some, though, that's just "the politics of envy" talking. :rolleyes:
     
  5. MickLL

    MickLL Well-Known Member

    This thread intrigues me. In previous threads we have had many instances of "bah managers"; "not worth the paper they are written on"; "don't know the business" and so on.

    Yet this thread has none of that. I really thought that some of us would be delighted that 'managers; would be getting their come uppance.

    MickLL
     
  6. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    I don't think in this case it is the managers on the middle level it is the faceless ones in their Ivory Towers.
     
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  7. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Fixed.;);)
     
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  8. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    Just an Audi? You must be talking about Lidl, Aldi or even Primark!:D
     
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  9. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    There is something wrong here. A proper job at mlw should be 44 hours. Someone contracted to 20 hours on mlw needs a second job. How can they take a second job if they have to be available for overtime on the first job. I'm certainly no socialist but I do see a need for fairness in the rules for employment.
     
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  10. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    By god I think he's got it!
     
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  11. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    The only real reason for Tescos existence is to keep the rif-raf out of Aldi!

    Sorry guys I will see myself out
     
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  12. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Not sure the 4 levels ripped out of Bayer and 3 out of Unilever would entirely agree. Most of the companies I know are very hire and fire at the exec levels. Ask anyone from RB or several others what their prospects look like if the numbers don't add up. I'd say middle management is the most vulnerable place to be. I worked with what was Beecham through their GSK, SB, Sterling Drug mergers and takeovers and they were massacres at exec levels.A few years ago, average life expectancy of a Brand Manager was down to 18 months. It is now almost 3 years, I believe.
     
  13. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Oh, I'm sure the barrack room logic will emerge in the end. Just takes time to rewind those old gramophones :)
     
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  14. Mark101

    Mark101 Well-Known Member

    They are one of the last food stores to play this game. Sainsbury's did it last year, including renegotiating contracts resulting in 27 staff at our local store walking. My wife spent three months with Sainsbury and they had become slave drivers. I applied for a festive position with Tesco in November. And although I do shop there it was an eye opener. You are expected to do everything and even the store manager and deputy were working like crazy to fill the shelves. They didn't want disabled me as I could do very little with my right arm etc... These places are all the same now.
     
  15. Mark101

    Mark101 Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure you can call these individuals Managers, anymore than it's correct to call an office clerk an administrator. What they are in effect is line supervisors with very little power to direct or manage. This viewpoint is derived from my many conversations with these so called Managers in recent years regarding serious complaints over various stores.
     
  16. Mark101

    Mark101 Well-Known Member

    Our local M & S Foodhall is closing and it is very profitable but the reason is : It's too small and doesn't fit our current business model. Beals department stores is closing down and a very big question mark is hanging over Boots. I laughed when M&S head office suggested I drive to their Bourne store instead, some 14 miles distant along a cart track with 20ft deep dykes each side of the road and no crash barriers. For those without car access there isn't even any public transport.
     
  17. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    That pretty well sums up my reason for voting with my feet.

    Also, any future redundancy offer was likely to be less. Some of my ex-colleagues had 20+ years service and stayed for less hours because getting another job scares them.
     
  18. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    I'm not speaking about losing a job, I'm speaking about having your life impacted by that. Also, I'm not talking about middle management. My point was that senior execs are more accountable for the success of an organisation, or it's absolute failure, but they suffer less as a result of that failure. That's all.
     
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  19. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Like the RBS thing and Fred buying himself a new Ferrari or 6 to console himself? Probably;).
     
  20. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Well in the sense that their staffs / workers are variable overheads that they can vary to defend profitability, I think that's a bit inevitable. You can trace the impact right back to people in the fields in 3rd world when demand for ingredients is reduced. Of course works the other way too. When managements are successful,
    companies [FONT="Open Sans",arial,helvetica,sans-serif]e[/FONT]xpand, people get taken on.​

    But if you are in an area that is heavily commoditised, real margins fall as you go down the experience curve. Nothing you can do about that except to create new premium sales opportunities.

    Not much chance to do that in retailing that's having the guts ripped out of it by e commerce.
     

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