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Meanwhile in England

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Learning, May 7, 2021.

  1. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Nottinghamshire has become Tory from NOC. Labour have lost 8 councillors and Conservatives gained six.

    There was also the little matter of a by election up in the North East.

    So far things seem to be satisfactory.
     
  2. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Labour in shock "tell the left wing to eff off and they will" discovery.
     
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  3. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    Spin alert...Tories lost a seat but that's not important...
     
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  4. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Incidentally, aren't the Greens doing well.
     
  5. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    Healthy showing...
     
  6. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    Hartlepool was hardly a shock. 10,000 voted for the Brexit party at the last election and there was no candidate this time. Highly unlikely they were going to vote Labour this time.
     
  7. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Hearing voices today in the media saying that Labour has to "change", if it wants to win power.

    Quite right... it's absolutely imperative that it elects a pathological liar as leader, and produces a range of policies which are socially and economically damaging - especially for the least well-off. Some window-dressing 'green' policies would also help.

    Get that lot in place, and it'll get elected. That's for sure.
     
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  8. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Forensic Keir notes, for a change, that change is needed to change the change that they are changing in the policies and change the pace of the change in the changes thereof.
     
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  9. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Yes. lose one gain two is not bad.
     
  10. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Haven't you guys worked it out yet? Mt General Public will vote for the party that makes me richer and promises to help the NHS/Teachers/Police/insert favourite cause.
    Labour won't make Mr General Public richer so he won't vote for them.
    The Green part won't let Mr General Public have a bigger car or foreign holiday so he won't vote for them
    The Lib Dems won't let Mr General Public trample on his neighbour so he won't vote for them
    Guess who remains?

    For Mr read Mr or Mrs, for him read him/her etc.
     
  11. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Cf:
     
  12. Gezza

    Gezza Well-Known Member

    Makes a change
     
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  13. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    The "Guess who remains" option ALSO won't make Mr/Mrs/Ms General Public richer, and certainly not 'better off' in a more general sense. If we're having trouble working anything out, it's why Mr/Mrs/Ms General Public seems to believe that it will, when all the evidence shows that it doesn't.

    It's a supremely brilliant, utterly repugnant, con-trick.
     
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  14. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    Got any change, guv?
     
  15. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Nah, gave my last 2p worth earlier.
     
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  16. dangie

    dangie Senior Knobhead

    Intrigues me when I hear the term 'better off'.
    Better off than what?
    I'm not rich, but I'm not poor.
    My health is ok for my age.
    I have a fantastic family with three wonderful grandchildren
    My hobbies are cycling & photography, both of which I am totally free to do twelve months of the year.
    If anyone was to tell me a few extra quid in my pocket each week would make me 'better off', I don't think so.

    Now I know there are many who need the extra money. But more often than not it's those with enough money who want more.
     
  17. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Better off for me is the peace of mind that the leader of the government isn't a lying narcissist, that my taxes aren't being spent on killing Yemenis, and that if I am ill a well-resourced NHS will be there for me. Money in my pocket has very little to do with it.
     
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  18. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    This forum needs a Like Very Much Indeed button. Sometimes, Like just doesn't cut it.
     
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  19. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    The leader of your government might well be a lying narcissist (but not as bad as Trump). Your taxes are not being spent on killing Yemenis. Do you really want Iranian backed terrorists to take over Yemen. The NHS is struggling. If the money in your pocket has very little to do with it then you have more than enough.
     
  20. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    "Might well be"?
     
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