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Liverpool stripped of World Heritage Status

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by dangie, Jul 21, 2021.

  1. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    No not at all. There is a house to it's right and behind it is another place with its own entrance to the left that sweeps behind this house (it was a farmhouse). Issues have been access as this doesn't currently have a drive, English heritage have become involved. It is not listed, not all is original, but has been there since the early 1800's and as it is the entrance to the village anything drastically different wouldn't be right (according to the parish council and EH) however the house to the right was built early 1900's, mine in 1777, my other neighbour recently pulled down a bungalow and built a huge modern house. Across the road is another rebuilt modern ish house, so nothing makes much sense. The house does not have any foundations, and is not really liveable. It would seem they would rather have a wreck than a more modern looking dwelling, set back a bit further and a bigger footprint and a new drive in and a drive out driveway. They have also cited concerns that we are in the greenbelt. There's already a house there FFS!
     
  2. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    They should do what my Council does. Pull it down at night. Joking apart (not really, it did happen), heritage people are a pain in the backside. My house was listed, but in the 1950s the back access store rooms were incorporated as part of the house and converted to living quarters. Those windows were not sash and since it was a pain to heat anyway, I put in similar double glazed units. Sod 'em I thought. Never heard any more.
     
  3. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Re Nige's post. Obviously I do not know the facts;even less could I prove them. I will not state anything libellous.
    I would suggest however that there are grounds for suspicion.
    In our own village we have a very long standing issue with a centrally placed building. All that is well known is that there is a feud between owner and certain leading people on the parish council.
    The owner does not want to make substantial visual changes to the building. His plans would provide competition to an existing business.
     
  4. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    TBH I am not suspicious at all re any shenanigans, and I am normally the suspicious type. I have just noticed that new plans have recently been submitted. It looks like a nice plain simple house, albeit bigger.
     
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  5. WillieJ

    WillieJ Well-Known Member

    I suspect if he engages a planning consent specialist lawyer - agreeing fee structure up front of course - then he would be able to do whatever he reasonably wants and it would be very well worth his while. Even the increase in value to the property (if he could not afford to get consent and then effect the re-build) would, I assume be worthwhile.
     
  6. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Looking at mouseprice he paid £250K for it in 2010. It was empty and decaying then too. I have no idea how much it costs to demolish and build but a house of a decent size ( not huge) on that plot of land would be worth well over a million.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2021
  7. WillieJ

    WillieJ Well-Known Member

    I believe yoy could build a cracking house for under 1/2 a mil so my theory stands.
     
  8. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    I think my buildings insurance for knock down and rebuild is just under 900k and the house was worth 350k as is the last time I looked. Rebuilding is not a cheap option.
     
  9. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Better late than never :oops:
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  10. Chester AP

    Chester AP Well-Known Member

    Perhaps it's the Liverpool Sumo wrestlers training camp, and the team is preparing for the 2024 Olympic games.
     
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  11. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Back to Liverpool. The heritage of Liverpool is similar to that of Bristol. Liverpool was was very successful in exporting European goods to West Africa. The same Skippers and owners were very successful in importing goods from the West Indies and the Southern states of North America. Sadly much of the intermediate cargo died on the middle passage. The surviving cargo were not much better off.
     
  12. WillieJ

    WillieJ Well-Known Member

    Building insurance is required to re-instate what was there. If its a traditional propert that could be considerably more than a modern build. Apart from that, some years ago segments the insurance industry decided to throw the onus for declaring how much a rebuild would cost on the home owner. That resulted in loads of home owners, myself included, telling their then current inmsurer where to go and what to do when they got there. The current fashion appears to be to streamline the quotation process by offering very high re-build cover as a matter of course. About twenty years ago there was A bit of a self build fashion for buying a naff system built 60s bungalow on a nice site, knocking the unattractive house down before it fell down and building a nicer house to replace it. Not as an insurance fraud I hasten to add - an insurance co would insist on a like for like replacement.
     
  13. Chester AP

    Chester AP Well-Known Member

    The meaning of 'World Heritage Status' is unclear, suggesting a title created by a committee whose members have different ideas of its meaning. The online Cambridge dictionary defines heritage as 'features belonging to the culture of a particular society, such as traditions, languages, or buildings, that were created in the past and still have historical importance', which allows that it might not always be something to be proud of.

    Many years ago I was discussing music with somebody who worshiped Bob Marley and upset him by suggesting that without slavery the culture that created Reggae couldn't exist, so arguing about the dark side of history wasn't always helpful as long as its existence was acknowledged and not hidden. Personally, I'm more of a Bo Diddley and Elmore James man, but their roots still go back to cities like Liverpool and its slavery trade.
     
  14. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    My suggestion was that the loss of heritage status might be linked to the slave trade that financed the heritage.
    We live in an age that judges the heroes of the past by the standards of the present.
     
  15. WillieJ

    WillieJ Well-Known Member

    Who were the heroes of the slave trade?
     
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  16. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    If my memory serves me correctly, Harriet Taubman, who was a major figure within the network of routes and safe houses used by slaves in the US to escape to free states during the 19th century?
     
  17. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

  18. WillieJ

    WillieJ Well-Known Member

    Lets hope they don't blow it by building an eyesore of a new stadium.;)
     
  19. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    It's Zip-wires in that part of the world!
     
  20. Gezza

    Gezza Well-Known Member

    And bike racks
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