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ilfobrom - any users? - novice needs help

Discussion in 'Everything Film' started by DaveCarr, Jul 18, 2001.

  1. DaveCarr

    DaveCarr Well-Known Member

    Hi
    I've got the chance to get my hands on a fairly large supply of Ilford's "Ilfobrom" paper (all grades from 1-5), I don't know which particular type it is, but it is being sold very cheaply.

    I have previously only printed using Ilford/Jessop papers, (with a little Kentmere) mainly Resin-Coated Multigrade, some Multigrade Fibre-based, and a tiny bit of lith. I have no experience of Ilfobrom whatsover. I am having difficulty sourcing plain-english details on processing and printing the paper. Can you lot help? Please?

    Has Ilford stopped making it? Does it need specialist dev/stop/fix? Does it have any weird characteristics? Would I be wasting my money buying it (only a few quid) All information very gratefully received - thanks
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Its not the greatest paper in the World. Ilford used to make their own developer for it. But obviously any paper developer will yield a result. Grades 1-5, well I would think you are wasting your time with 1,2 and 5 at least in normal usage so consider the price in relation to the amount of grade 3 and 4 that is on offer. Another thing, is the paper still in date? Also has the paper a finish which you want, the Ilford matt was particularly nasty.

    At the last resort apply the old axiom, " If it's too good to be true it probably isn't".

    Brian.
     
  3. jeffrey

    jeffrey Member

    Hi,
    I think that Ilford have discontinued ilfobrom. It has been replaced by ilfobrom gallerie (I think) which you can get now get easily. As it was just another b w paper it should not need any different chemicals.

    (also, why did someone say in the last posting that you should only get grades 3 and 4???!! get 1,2 and 3! There is little point in wasting good paper on "soot and whitewash" prints (unless you can do it as well as Bill Brant...))
     
  4. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Grade depends on your technique and equipment. In the main, though, 1 and 5 should seldom be necessary. It's then a matter of technique, equipment, film, developer and personal choice as to which grades are the most useful. But if the paper is old, it will lose contrast and speed, so getting harder grades makes more sense than softer ones. And you rile the Snail at your own peril!

    Nick
     
  5. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Indeed, let sleeping snails lie is what I say!
    BigWill
     
  6. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Sorry I spoke Jeffrey, please excuse me making comments based on actual hands on experience of the product in question. Also re the grades recommended I was suggesting the most usable grades bearing in mind the age of the paper.The Ilford grading for this paper meant that grade 3 was normal,grade 2 soft, grade 4 hard. Grade 1 was Extra soft , grade 5 extra hard.I had already covered the point re developers in my original posting. If the paper is out of date it has probably shifted grades downwards making grade 1/2 unusable. If the quantity of paper was made up with most of it being the softer grades then the bargain could in fact be a waste of money. Really at the end of the day my advise would be, buy some decent paper and don't waste your time. No Ilfobrom was not replaced by Gallerie, if it was the the paper in question must be at least 20 years old,and useless.



    BrianT.
     
  7. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Bearing in mind the age of the poster, take his advice, old snails know best!
    BigWill
     
  8. phil

    phil Well-Known Member

    You never cease to be able to make me smile Will - Keep it up!



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  9. DaveCarr

    DaveCarr Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the advice guys - I left the `deal` alone in the end, based on your experiences.
    Suppose that's what we're here for though, thanks for all info.
     

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