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How tough is this?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by LesleySM, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    I'm not so negative!
    Nietzsche could be categorized as a nihilist in the descriptive sense that he believed that there was no longer any real substance to traditional social, political, moral, and religious values. He denied that those values had any objective validity or that they imposed any binding obligations upon us.

    Hmm.... I think there's at least one here ascribing to his views, but not me! :)
  2. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    There is at least one person here that thinks D500 better suits my requirements than a D5. As soon as we consider what is the 'best camera' we should also ask for whom and for what purpose.For many people the camera in their phone is a better camera than a D5.
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  3. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Nietzsche has much to answer for, not least his part in shaping National Socialism with his concept of "master-slave morality". When it comes to the subjectivity of morality though, he stated an unpleasant truth. We believe what we choose to believe and it is only the overwhelming pressure of a society that enforces whatever moral standards that society has chosen to pursue. Take away the pressure and the morality changes.
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  4. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    I have to agree. I was on the London Underground last week, there were huge adverts for the iPhone 11 with photographs taken using the built-in cameras and very good they were too, at first glance. I really only studied one of them a wide angle shot of a cyclist and his bike, I would have set my focus differently and used less depth of field but to the majority of people the image from the iPhone would have been stunning.
  5. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    Don't be fooled by the phone shots.
    They can certainly be good, but if one looks carefully at the TV ads, there is usually a line that reads 'extra equipment used' or something similar.
    Cant remember theink, but one photo site listed what the extras were for some earlier iPhone models.
    It basically consisted of attaching the iPhone to a pro level video rig, including the lenses and other gear.

    The 100x zoom on the latest Samsung looks great in principal, but useless in reality. Crap quality, and the shake we all know comes from such high level zooms.

    I have now got a Huawei P20 Pro, which produces really good images but relies heavily on ai to finish the pics.

    Far better than my earlier phones, but I haven't attempted to use the raw images yet
  6. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    As I said, I could tell quite easily what I thought was "wrong" with the one image I studied and it was clear that it showed limitations I wouldn't consider acceptable. The thing is that I wouldn't spend £1,200 on a phone, though I would happily spend that on a camera body, less so would I spend that on a phone simply because of the camera.
  7. LesleySM

    LesleySM Well-Known Member

    I have a Google Pixel phone and when it came out everyone said "You got it because it has a great camera"

    To which the reply is "I don't take photos with my camera"

    It's basically okay for a quick snap but nothing else and i really don't know how to use it

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