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Here we go - Corbyn mania pending!!

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by MickLL, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. Sejanus.Aelianus

    Sejanus.Aelianus In the Stop Bath

    That is a welcome apology.

    I hope I speak for all when I say "thank you".
     
  2. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    S.A.,

    As Roger won't see your note of thanks, I hope you don't mind if I quote it so that he can glow in the warmth of your gratitude.

    Eric
     
  3. AlexMonro

    AlexMonro Old Grand Part Deux

    I think I may have made this point a few weeks ago, but it seems to me that there are many threats to the security of the United Kingdom to which Trident or its replacement would not be a credible counter, and the high cost would be better spent on conventional forces and the intelligence and security services.
     
  4. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Agreed.

    S
     
  5. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    ^^^^ Me too.
     
  6. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    Aye.

    Graeme
     
  7. 0lybacker

    0lybacker In the Stop Bath

    Echo that, Alex, plus ... what is wrong with the third way? Keep existing Trident until it becomes no longer serviceable. Junking an existing system on which £bns have been spent in order to spend more £bns on something that is highly unlikely to be used seems to me to be mad. Cheers, Oly
     
  8. Atavar

    Atavar Well-Known Member

    To be honest nukes are old news anyway. Yes, they pack a punch but what a mess! Modern consensus is that orbiting kinetic bombardment satellites would be a much more attractive option, supply similar levels of destruction and, importantly, not breach team international rules on posting weapons in orbit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

    Why does the UK not have five of these circling the planet? That would be well worth £100 billion of anyone's money if your looking for "bang for your buck".
     
  9. BikerMike

    BikerMike Well-Known Member

    The logical step would be to ask our new friends, the Chinese, to build and maintain Trident on our behalf. We trust them with nuclear power, why not with nuclear weapons? :)

    Regards, Mike
     
  10. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    Given that HMG is apparently hell-bent on outsourcing everything else to do with defence.........why not?

    Lynn
     
  11. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    I thought it already was - to the Americans?

    S
     
  12. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    Correct.
     
  13. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    I'd imagine there is still a cost of maintaining the existing system
     
  14. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    I'm sure there is; but this option would allow time to retrain all those employed in this area and reduce the impact on unemployment, because it strikes me that the biggest argument left in favour of these things are the jobs they provide.
     
  15. BikerMike

    BikerMike Well-Known Member

    And what better than to retrain for decommissioning?

    There are currently about 18,000 employed in trying to clean up nuclear waste. The work is guaranteed for the next 10,000 years. It is the one budget no government dare ever cut, currently running at approx £70 bn. and being revised up by about 10% each year. Jobs for life? :(

    Regards, Mike
     
  16. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    Well I never, Jeremy C, a Robin Cook reincarnation and a full time model for garden Gnomes!
     
  17. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

     
  18. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Now he has snubbed the CBI. Sure they differ in their views but I think that they would have been polite and civil. What hope for a prime ministerial wannabe who won't even meet the CBI?
     
  19. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    If Jeremy Corbyn has pacifist and seriously heavy left wing leanings and is sympathetic to Russia, how does that fit in with the current 'expeditions' Russia is having in Ukraine and Syria. He just has to have a conflict of ideals.
     
  20. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    Indeed he must. And I am sure he does.

    Is there any one of us who holds a battery of political/philosophical/moral beliefs that are all completely congruent one with the other?
     

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