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Help I think I want some new glass

Discussion in 'General Equipment Chat & Advice' started by SCT, Jul 23, 2001.

  1. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Not <font color=red> DRACLEICA! <font color=black> Where is old bat features anyway? Probably hanging upside-down in the wardrobe until it gets dark I imagine!
    Biggus Willyus
     
  2. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    He's been posting nothing on the message board in the Gallery (see for yourself what I mean.).
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    Nick
     
  3. SCT

    SCT Well-Known Member

    So why call it Prime. Is it some photo clique thing to imply that these are superior to zoom lenses. Afterall we do not call zoom lenses "secondary".

    Both groups do a different job and for different circumstances.

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  4. SCT

    SCT Well-Known Member

    Thanks

    OK so thanks for the comments. And having weighed throught the response I think I may have found what I am looking for. Not the Huble Space telescope. Could not get it in the gadget bag.

    I think I might go for the "SIGMA 50mm f2.8 EX MACRO NIKON AF D".

    So any thoughts on this.

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  5. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    They ARE superior to zoom lenses. As to why they were first called prime, it's lost in the mists of time, so you'll have to ask Brian or Clive.

    Nick
     
  6. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Re: Thanks

    A longer focal length macro gives better working distances, useful if you're working outside.

    Nick
     
  7. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Re: Thanks

    Would go with Nick on this one. Try to get a 90mm focal length instead.
    BigWill
     
  8. Clive

    Clive Well-Known Member

    Etymologically, one would suspect that 'Prime Lens' only came into use when zoom lenses appeared, as it cannot be Prime = first class, or the best, as some 'prime' lenses were never of any decent quality. I would think the most likely similarity would be with 'prime number', which means having 'no integral factors except itself and unity'. But I certainly stand to be corrected. Well, you did ask.
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  9. SCT

    SCT Well-Known Member

    Re: Thanks

    Ok thankyou Gents, look into a 90mm. Looks like Mr AmEx is going to get hit!!!

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  10. SCT

    SCT Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. I think I'm going to have to read the history of this fine art.

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  11. SCT

    SCT Well-Known Member

    Re: Thanks

    OK could not find a 90mm. Anybody come across this baby "COSINA 100mm f3.5 MACRO ". Not had any experiance of Cosina lens. Nathans lenses are'nt Cosina.

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  12. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Re: Thanks

    Tamron make a 90.
    I have the Vivitar 100 f3.5 macro in EOS fitting which is the same as the Cosina (Cosina make them). It's construction is cheap and nasty (but has a metal lens mount), and requires an accessory close-up lens to achieve true macro, but, and it's a big but, it's CHEAP!!!!
    Quality isn't too bad at all. Not earth shattering, but perfectly good stopped down - which is where you use a macro lens anyway. Until I can afford the best (Canon 100 f2.8 USM), it suits me fine.

    Nick
     
  13. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Re: Thanks

    Saving up to buy the best eh Nasty Nick?. Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro, Grade 4.2 .Leitz 100mm 2.8 APO Macro Elmarit, Grade 4.5.Looks as though you are going to save four times longer then you thought. Oh and then there is a body.

    Just a silly remark from a Snail./img/wwwthreads/wink.gif

    The Snail.
     
  14. SCT

    SCT Well-Known Member

    Re: Thanks

    Had a look at the Tamron and would appear to do the job. Thanks.

    Forget the silly remak from the Snail. You can afford it.

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  15. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Re: Thanks

    If you believe the reviewers, maybe. And I'm not really saving for it - the Vivitar's enough fun at the moment.
    When I buy a Leica, though, I have no intention of buying a lens as long as 100mm.

    Nick
     
  16. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Re: Thanks

    Then Nick you are going to rule out the wonderful 180mm and 280mm Apo Telyts. Or have you decided it's got to be an M? Mind you you could always use a Visoflex.

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  17. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Re: Thanks

    When I do, it'll probably be a IIIf, to be honest. Otherwise it will be an M.

    Nick
     
  18. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Re: Thanks

    Nick,

    I always knew you were a gentleman who appreciated the finer thing in life. But I find it funny that so few people consider the purchase of a used Reflex Leica. The R3, which is a great camera can be bought in mint condition for around £300 add 35,50,90mm Summicrons and for under £1300 you have a top quality outfit. With an M6 and three similar lenses the cost is £3500 all as per the current advertisement issued by The Classic Camera Co. Even with the reflex cameras you still have the Leitz quality both in terms of mechanics but perhaps above all in optics, across the range nobody equals the performance of Leitz, particularly in terms of colour rendition.

    Brian.
     
  19. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

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    Brian, I have frequently thought about it. For the same reasons I have often considered a Contax SLR (except they are better cameras, with maybe not quite such good lenses, and a similar system could be aquired for about half that). But I don't believe that the Leica R system would be as useful to me as the EOS system overall.
    Part of the enjoyment I get from photography is in using the equipment, I freely admit. The pursuit of a Leica is as much to get the enjoyment of using a classic as from the photographic quality, and somehow an R Leica just isn't what I want. A IIIf or g(in my dreams!) or an M4-P or M6 would be. Irrational, maybe, but it's being irrational that makes life worth living!

    Nick
     
  20. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Re: Thanks

    I agree absolutely with your posting Nick. Now I must stop doing this, it's going to ruin my reputation. however might I suggest a little removal to the Leica room would be appropriate? Let me ask you, Why the screw or bayonet, what would be your reason for reaching the decision, which way to go?

    Brian, The seriously interested Snail.
     

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