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Discussion in 'General Equipment Chat & Advice' started by albini13, Sep 22, 2002.

  1. sinister

    sinister Well-Known Member

  2. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Oh, that's not so bad then. When you go to Sinisters's house for tea they ask you "One hump or two?" /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    BigWill

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  3. Reading

    Reading Well-Known Member

    "I posted up a thread in order to improve my knowledge by asking like minded pople who are well educated in this subject for their opinions."

    Am I the only one who finds this statement to be a sad indictment of the company in that he didnt feel he could ask a like minded person who is well educated within Jessops?

    It seems poor that Jessops has allowed someone to start serving customers who want advice on these issues without either training them adequately in advance or supervising and helping them peoperly until they are up to speed.

    No offence to our friend here, but this is sad. I can understand his coming here to further his knowledge and enjoyment but the questions posed seem fairly fundamental to his job and I am staggered that the company has let him and their customers down to this degree.

    This has nothing to do with any opinions on their attitude to 'money, money, money' or whatever - just plain bad management really.
     
  4. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    It's a bit sad right enough that someone from the retail industry feels the need to come on here to seek advice but that is of course not a fault of the person themselves but rather reflects the sad state of training within Jessops as a whole. At least the person concerned seems to have a genuine wish to learn and to pass on the benifits of his knowledge to his customers which is totally admirable. It's just a pity Jessops didn't provide him with that knowledge in the first instance.

    BigWill

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  5. Lounge_Lizard

    Lounge_Lizard Well-Known Member

    Did he not say that he hadn't been with them very long and was a video specialist rather than still camera expert?

    David
     
  6. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Re: Differences between EOS300 and 3

    My name's Nick and I'm a cameraholic. And my latest purchase is a (second-hand) EOS 3. What can I say? It's the most complicated film camera I've ever bought. I can't think of anything it can't do. I've bought it because my EOS 5 is beginning to fall apart, and I hope that this will last me to the end of my film SLR life. I think it will. So far I've put one film through it, and it handles superbly. I can't tell you what the results are like, but I've every confidence in it. The features I'm interested in are the multi-spot metering, and some of the things missing from EOSs below 1 level since the EOS 600 (illuminated LCD etc).
    I also have a 300. It's a truy terrific little camera, but much more flimsy, and feels awful with the bigger zooms (20-35 L, 28-135 IS and Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EX) which feel so right with the 3, and also with my (many) other EOSs.
    I'm not ready to pass real judgement on the 3 yet, but so far I only regret not buying it sooner. And the AF seems terrific, for when I really need it.
    So, can the 3 get better results than the 300? Well, in some circumstances, yes. True spotmetering and multi spotmetering can get a better exposure, and the AF is in a different league. But for the most part, the best results will come from the one with the best lens attached.

    Nick BSRIPN
     
  7. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Re: Differences between EOS300 and 3

    Dear Nick, you must fight this addicition! Remember that it is only a short step away to full blown EOS1N ownership and then there will truly be no hope! If you ever feel the urge to buy another camera, think Lubitel and this should desuade you from ever looking at another camera ever again! Be strong and remember, buying cameras is just a sex substitute.......so have a podger instead!

    BigWill

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  8. dogbyte

    dogbyte In the Stop Bath

    Re: Differences between EOS300 and 3

    So why has Nick bought a camera that only has to last him 2 weeks (to the end of his film SLR life)
    And whats all this "N" - isn't the 1 with the 3 features the "V"?
    Must admit I'm sorely tempted by the 3 because I seem to get so many focusing failures on the subjects I shoot most, plus exposure cockups on my slides
    I know it makes sense to buy a 2nd hand one but the first models had under-exposure problems and I haven't figured out how to identify the first lot.

    Pete IRIPN
     
  9. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Re: Differences between EOS300 and 3

    I've been thinking about this one for a bit. Does it give me anything I need that the 5 doesn't have? Well, it's stronger and more resistant to bad weather, and the multispot metering appeals. And it's got true mirror lock-up. Oh, and a 97% viewfinder is a lot better than 93%. But the only reason I've bought this is that my 5 has really taken a battering, and I'm not sure how much longer it'll keep soldiering on. So the (reasonably affordable) choices were (a) don't bother replacing it - wait for the amateur version of the D1S (quite attractive given the rest of my cameras, but I really prefer SLRs in the end); (b) get another EOS 5, (c) get a 3 or (d) get a 1N. The last three options would all be second hand, and as I really wanted something a bit tougher it was down to the last 2. Multi spot swung it.

    Nick BSRIPN
     
  10. Burgy

    Burgy In the Stop Bath

    Re: Differences between EOS300 and 3

    I had one of the first EOS3's in the country (actually from the first batch imported), shortly after they were launched, iy never had any underexposure problems, however the meter can easily be recallibrated to suit you via the CPS ( Canon Professional Services) or their service department for a nominal fee (via CPS it was free).

    Burgy

    Its not what you've got, its who you do it to. http://www.pressfotos.co.uk
     
  11. albini13

    albini13 Well-Known Member

    Thanyou David. Let me put this one to bed. As I said before i haven`t been at Jessops for long but let me give you an idea of the way the company works. There are areas and strong points that each employeee brings to the job and Jessops offer a number of courses to enhance knowledge. For instance i have already been on the following courses,

    Digital video editing level 1 and 2 run by pinnacle
    Digital imaging level 1 2 and 3 run by Nikon
    Just been accepted to go onto a CPC course
    Digital SLR's

    There are tons of other courses on offer such as (Medium Format courses) etc etc, but i haven`t had the chance to go on them yet. Now add this to the equation. I also go to college 2 nights a week and on my day off I have just signed up to do a photography course. As david in the last thread said, my area is camcorders digital video editing and digital cameras.

    Lets move on from this now, i`m bored.
     
  12. Reading

    Reading Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but no. As I said, no offence to you - Jessops management is not your problem, but you are obviously being asked to do more than just the areas you have been trained in.

    You say "One of the questions we get asked constantly about SLR's is, "What makes that camera beter than that one". Usually this question is aimed at the Canon EOS 300 compared to other EOS camera like the EOS 30 and the EOS 3. What are the main differences between the 300 and the 3?"

    I read this to say that you, yourself, have been asked this question on several occasions and been unable to supply an answer. There should have been someone there to assist you that you could turn to for the answer or they should have supplied the knowledge in advance, or they should not have put you in that position.
     
  13. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    We don't want to bring this site into disrepute!
    Bit late for that Will /img/wwwthreads/wink.gif

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  14. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    Re: Differences/camel burgers

    Is that a misprint,did you mean to say i just eat the burgers?
    hmmm,camel burgers....

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  15. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    Re: Differences/my attempt to get a job there

    i tried to get a job at jessops only be turned down and then find out that they recruited a young kid who didnt last 5 minutes cios he asked the wrong questions of his workmates(Asking a well-qualified colleague why we do it this way etc)
    The kid only looked about 12!

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  16. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    maybe he was reffering to his colleagues who work on the shop floor being asked that question.

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  17. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    Re: Differences between EOS300 and 3/sex substitute

    Be strong and remember, buying cameras is just a sex substitute.......
    what does that say about those with loads of cameras eh. I only have one camera now! /img/wwwthreads/wink.gif



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  18. Reading

    Reading Well-Known Member

    If it happenned that often, and he heard the question being asked, wouldnt he have heard the gist of the answer?
     
  19. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    i guess it does sound a bit dodgy but then read my post about my attempt to get a job there

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  20. Burgy

    Burgy In the Stop Bath

    To be honest Numanoid one thing I wouldnt admit in public is that I couldnt get a job in Jessops, I rather admit to stacking shelves at Sainsbury's or using a Zenit

    BUrgy

    Its not what you've got, its who you do it to. http://www.pressfotos.co.uk
     

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