I was brought up as a firm believer in self-reliance. No one but myself has ever solved any of my problems. Is that such an unworthy view of life? Clearly, that is a specious question. I would have added 'too tired after work' and 'no time when I get home' to Learning's list, but I would still have 'couldn't be bothered' in there as well. Like many on this forum, I can remember well post-war rationing. I can remember my mother being frantic, and practically in tears, because she thought - mistakenly as it happened - she had lost a ration book. My father had gone back to university to continue an interrupted degree, and there was practically no money - but we ate healthily, fresh fruit and veg bought from the local market, what meat we were allowed, and a little bit of produce from a tiny scrap of garden. Both my parents worked damned hard to keep us all fed on simple, healthy, but above all, cheap food. I am not 'demonizing' anybody, but I personally think that their effort and hard work was laudable. Back then, of course, there was no 'entitlement' meme. By the way, I have never read the Daily Mail, so that remark is entirely lost on me.