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demise of tradional

Discussion in 'Everything Film' started by sey, Dec 22, 2004.

  1. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    good point!

    I presume you have never manipulated one of your poorer images........
    yes well, every time you use a scanner you take a digital pic!

    <font color=blue>I'm built for comfort, I aint built for speed!</font color=blue>
    Howlin' Wolf
     
  2. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    quality issues

    its not a case of better quality, but a diferent quality!

    <font color=blue>I'm built for comfort, I aint built for speed!</font color=blue>
    Howlin' Wolf
     
  3. sey

    sey Well-Known Member

    Well Nigel, I see that we really managed to p--- you off! Good!!
    Yes the debate is over and I am a true believer of "different strokes for different folks". All I am asking is to be allowed to continue my strokes without being forced to cave-in by the forces that have been brought to bear upon us poor Luddites. It's not in the name of progress that this is happening but big business!!!!!!!

    seymour
     
  4. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    On what grounds?
    I dont want to at the moment cos it'd be too flippin expensive to get decent prints! (DFo it yourself and you'll need a {PC mem upgrade and a expensive printer)
    Quite happy to snap and scan, and get the odd enlargement done at Jessops.

    <font color=blue>I'm built for comfort, I aint built for speed!</font color=blue>
    Howlin' Wolf
     
  5. BigWill

    BigWill Gorgeous oversensitive Nikon-loving cream puff

    Welcome to the forum Seymour. I think (to the best of my knowledge) you are our only forum member from Israel and as such it's a pleasure to have you aboard. As to the old "film v digital" debate, it's all been said before ad-nauseum here I'm afraid, although if you care to trawl through some of the older posts you will find countless "debates" on the subject. As for me, I use both film and digital and fully intend to use both as and when the mood takes me.

    BigWill

    <font color=blue>I'm sailing like a driftwood on a windy bay!<font color=black>
     
  6. Salazar

    Salazar In the Stop Bath

    Well I do not think that film is dead. Nikon have just launched the F6 flagship. Now they would not be doing that if it was a lost cause. Certanly not such a high spec camera.

    <font color=blue>Steve C Thompson</font color=blue>
     
  7. Done_rundleCams

    Done_rundleCams AP Forum Ambassador to Canada

    "It's not in the name of progress that this is happening but big business!!!!!!!"

    Exactly, I could give a rats what people use just as long you keeping
    putting money, albeit £'s,$'s or shekels, into the coffers/img/wwwthreads/smile.gif.

    That way I can afford to buy more digital stuff/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif!!

    And very Merry Christmas to your Mr. Rosen.

    /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    Jack

    Life is a Photo-Op
     
  8. Larry Shone

    Larry Shone Well-Known Member

    good point Steve, glad they still continuing the 35mm line!

    <font color=blue>I'm built for comfort, I aint built for speed!</font color=blue>
    Howlin' Wolf
     
  9. sey

    sey Well-Known Member

    Good Morning to you Merry-Makers!!!
    I certainly hope that you were all not too stuffed and were able to take advantage of your White Christmas!!! from my part of the world it looked very pretty on "SKY" NEWS.

    Salazar-Steve, I am encouraged by the release of the Nikon F6 - I am greatly impressed by either their incredible "cajones" or their wonderous miscalculation, time will tell. Being a Nikon-person of over 30 years standing,(my current kit being F100, F70, 3 AF NIKKORS SB80), they did me proud to see that they seem to have confidence in the survival of film for the foreseeable future and in doing what they've done, have given a boost to all pessimists like myself.
    If Canon pull a similar trick, then I belive, I and all my fellow analogue "Luddites" can rest easy for a while.

    All the best,

    seymour
     
  10. Salazar

    Salazar In the Stop Bath

    Good Morning to you Merry-Makers!!!

    About all I can manage this morning is "ug "



    <font color=blue>Steve C Thompson</font color=blue>
     
  11. jchrisc

    jchrisc Well-Known Member

    I take it that is a traditional "ug" then?

    Chris

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Salazar

    Salazar In the Stop Bath

    Ug Ug

    <font color=blue>Steve C Thompson</font color=blue>
     
  13. sey

    sey Well-Known Member

    luv to see your Digital Ug

    seymour
     
  14. Done_rundleCams

    Done_rundleCams AP Forum Ambassador to Canada

    "luv to see your Digital Ug"

    Morning Seymour,

    If it anything like his Analog Ug......Ah, nah probably not/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif!

    /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    Jack

    Life is a Photo-Op
     
  15. Salazar

    Salazar In the Stop Bath

    No you would'nt. /img/wwwthreads/wink.gif

    <font color=blue>Steve C Thompson</font color=blue>
     
  16. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    Well Nigel, I see that we really managed to p--- you off! Good!!

    Well yes I get pissed off with this pointless non-debate about something that's not going to go away just because a few old stick -in-the-muds want it to.

    Neither is film likely to go away in the short or even medium term though it may well become something of a specialist medium in the longer term (a bit like LF is today). How long the medium term lasts really depends on how long the major manufacturers choose to continue making film bodies. Nikon's recent F6 and Canon's upgrade of the 300 and 30 series cameras are positive signs but will we see an F7 or EOS1x (or 1v MkII or whatever)? If the makers stop making film bodies then film as a poular medium will only last as long as the old film cameras can be kept going, this is a sad but I suspect all too real scenario.

    One thing I've discovered about owning a dSLR is that it's all too easy not to bother getting your film bodies out, far too much like hard work and no instant results...................... ho hum............./img/wwwthreads/frown.gif

    Nigel CRIPN

    Now I'm well and truly pixellated... /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
     
  17. sey

    sey Well-Known Member

    I think that "it's all to easy" is part of my problem & if I wanted "instant" results I would be hankering after Polaroid.

    Seymour - when the wind blows!
     
  18. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    The "it's all too easy" extends only as far as not getting the film bods out......after that things get just as complicated as film and if it all goes tits-up you've only yourself to blame as well...../img/wwwthreads/frown.gif

    The instant review feature is a lot like using a Polaroid back on an MF camera as it allows you to review/fine tune the composition/exposure which for a photographically challenged berk like me is a real boon!

    Incidentally if you want to see what a purely digital photographer can do then take a look at Tanya Lowe's work on her <a href="http://www.justmono.com/tanya.htm" target="_new">justmono gallery<A> or at <a href="http://www.castvision.co.uk/" target="_new">CastVision website<A>. Talent will out whatever the medium............

    Nigel CRIPN

    Now I'm well and truly pixellated... /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
     
  19. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    One thing I've discovered about owning a dSLR is that it's all too easy not to bother getting your film bodies out, far too much like hard work and no instant results

    Not a problem round here! The same could be said of zooms against prime lenses (the first bit anyway!), but its the "old" fixed lenses rock my boat too.

    Tim BSRIPN
    [​IMG]
     
  20. sey

    sey Well-Known Member

    Have looked at Tanya's work as well as Gareth Lock's & many, many others & YES, Talent will out whatever the medium.

    Nigel, at the risk of repeating myself, my beef is that the MEDIUM is being obliterated by the pressure of the intense promotion of Digital & thus will be lost. I am not against other Media, I just don't want to be forced into a new
    place when I'm perfectly happy where I am.

    It's the loss of a talent, skill or whatever you wish to call it, just as you find , today, graphic artists, designers & architects who don't know how to draw & don't even know how to hold a pencil & are completely dependent on ACAD or PS.

    Seymour - when the wind blows!
     

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