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Computer Games - "Elite"

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Fen, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    Does anyone else here remember playing Elite on the BBC/Spectrum/C64 back in the 80s? (Amiga a bit later)

    Or perhaps Frontier/First Encounters on the PC in the 90s?

    For me it started on the BBC at school in the computer studies class:
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    Then played every version that I could get from the Spectrum through to the last version on the PC. Since then it has been a long wait... But now a new version is in development (currently ver. Beta 3.0.6) and I've been 'testing' it since the first stages. And I must say that it is coming along splendidly :)

    The original station design has had an update:
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    There are new stations designs as well (this just one of them):
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    And the new Cobra MkIII:
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    But I guess the best way to show it off is with a video:
    [video=youtube;ISR4ebdGlOk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISR4ebdGlOk[/video]

    They're hoping for an Xmas release date for the full game :)
     
  2. Scphoto

    Scphoto Well-Known Member

    Looks a hell of lot better (graphics) than the Spectrum version I briefly looked it. I never got into it at the time as I wasn't really into those sorts of games. I'd probably be more inclined to have a go now. Might be tempted if my Mac will support it!
     
  3. AlexMonro

    AlexMonro Old Grand Part Deux

    I remember playing it on my mate's BBC B a few times - I usually got killed in the first battle, and I wasn't much good at the trading either. Probably just as well I didn't have a machine I could run it on, I'd never have got anything done!

    The graphics in this new version look great - I can imagine some people flying around just to look at stuff!
     
  4. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    Playd on a BBC, looks very good. Any chance of gettig that beta?
     
  5. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    You can buy in to the Beta*, which will also give you access to the Gamma and the additional "Mercenary" pack on full release.

    Not sure what the cost is as I've been in since the Alpha stages.

    * "Beta" is used in the true sense of the word with traditional Beta testing. Unlike a lot of modern Beta phases with some other games which are really fully-working, 99% complete versions of the games. That for Elite will be the Gamma phase.

    At the moment, we're in a bubble of about 20,000 planets! You can trade, pirate, mine, run missions, bounty hunt or just fly around exploring :)

    When full release happens there will be 25 different ship type for players, along with others that will be 'Faction' owned. They'll also be 400 billions star systems, basically the whole of the Milky-way!
     
  6. Atavar

    Atavar Well-Known Member

    Looks very good, never did get very far in Elite II though :) I'm playing Spore at the moment which in the latter stages (after evolving from a single cell organism) allows you to set off and colonise the whole galaxy of millions of star systems :)
     
  7. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    My favourite game of that type is Escape Velocity.....
    http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/

    IIRC it was Mac only for a lot of years but now you can get it on PC too :) (shame about Aperion though.....can't get that for my PC and haven't played it since the 90s :( )
     
  8. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    I missed out on Elite, but played Frontier on my first PC back in the very early 90's.

    It's limitation was mostly around the single player nature of gmes of that era. Really it was too early for the tech to have caught up.

    But it did catapult me into Eve online in 2004, which I played to a silly degree fora about 4 years. My mates and I had always said of Frontier "wouldn't it be great if could all play together".

    There are a couple of guys in my online gaming community playing the beta*, and they occasionally try and seduce the rest of us to give it a go. At the moment though i am slightly put off by paying for a Beta. We are also quite heavily involved in another game as a group. And last I think ED is instanced? Is that correct Fen? The beauty of Eve online was it was a single instance - so every player was there in the same environment?

    *All pretty good pilot types specialising in flying games, currently pirating for all they are worth.
     
  9. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    Yeah, 32 player instances. But to be honest in a 400billion star system, real players are going to be outnumbered by the NPCs

    You can group together so that you can all fly/work/hunt together. That was brought in for Beta 3 - although I haven't tried that yet so don't know how successfully it is working at the moment.

    Beta closes on the 22nd Nov, which means all the Beta rewards will also be closed to those that join afterwards - Mercenary Pack (2nd starting ship, skins, decals), permit access to Sol and other stuff.
     
  10. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    Just tried to d/l it to give it a go - but their shop is down.

    32 players does seem a huge limitation though. As you say, the universe is vast so you will lose people in it.

    What attracts me to these sort of games are the PVP aspects, and if I'm going to shoot someone I need to find them first :D
     
  11. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    Never been that much into computer gaming, as I've always perceived a computer as a 'tool' for things like DTP on my Atari. However, I did succumb to using Llamatron quite a bit! There was a version that also ran on the PC, but it's never managed to match the original version.

    http://www.myabandonware.com/game/llamatron-2112-1gb
     
  12. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    This was posted on the ED Forums this morning:
    Should be back up this afternoon.


    I guess that is down to them using P2P for the instancing. Doesn't put any limit on the number of NPCs though and their AI seems quite good. They also come in varying skill levels the same as real people.


    There is PvP, PvE and Solo in the game. It is a MMO, however it is not PvP centric. PvP isn't the main part of the game. It really isn't like EVE in that way (something I'm glad of myself) so there isn't player space stations, player forced embargoes, clans/guilds.

    You can play in groups with friends/contact though :)

    Edit - Forgot to say... There are hyperspace trackers so you can hunt people down and devices for interrupting their hyperspace journey by pulling them out of the drive.
     
  13. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    Argh! Jeff Minter... How I disliked those games ;)

    Have a look at this site:
    http://retrospec.sgn.net/index.php?link=finished

    I believe they have a few Minter Classics on there :)
     
  14. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    Way back in 2003 I was one of the many people who worked together in my alliance to build the first ever player built station in Eve - something I'm still ridiculously proud of lol
     
  15. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    What Alliance are you in? Been a long time since I played Eve.

    BTW - Shop open :)
     
  16. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

  17. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    Love the billion ISK... Reminds me of the real life ISK króna wich is more or less worthless now.
     
  18. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    CCP who make eve are based in Reykjavik, so I don't think it was coincidental. They do a big fan gathering there every year, one of the best bits of going was spending real life ISK :p
     
  19. nCognito

    nCognito Well-Known Member

    I loved that game!!

    Played it on the BBC B and a bit later, can't wait for the new version, though nearly 30 years on, I'm guessing my reactions will be a bit slower!

    Took me ages to get the hang of docking :)
     
  20. Fen

    Fen Well-Known Member

    Same here. Been waiting and waiting for this to come around!

    Dunno about that... I'm in my mid 40s now and still out there battling with people. There was a poll a few months back about the age of the people in Alpha/Beta and over 80% of them were 35 or older :)

    You'll be happier with the new version. Docking is a lot easier, but if you have problems you can buy a docking computer at the stations.
     

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