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Chucking it in

Discussion in 'Smartphone photography' started by Brian, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. Bazarchie

    Bazarchie Well-Known Member

    I am with Tony. You seem to have bought and sold more camera gear in the last few years than most people do in a lifetime.

    You have also singed the praises of eBay over those years apart from the unfortunate recent episode, one bad deal compared with 10s of good deals? Did they ever sort sort the bad deal?

    If owning and being seen to use DSLR equipment is such a bad thing, then use eBay one last time to dispose of everything.
  2. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    I will never use eBay again
    Scammed 3 times in 10mths for £2K+!! Yes, have been refunded, but this last scam was by far the most traumatic. Not so much the money, but the flat refusal by both eBay and PayPal to believe me, even with credible proof by Royal Mail head office!! Horrendous, will never risk that happening again. Not EVER
    Yes, it’s a considerable amount, easily £10K+ at used eBay prices. But unless god forbid the wolf comes knocking and that I can fathom a way to store properly....then I’ll write the investment off and put it down to bad experience.
    The 7d and L zoom will see occasional use at sons sports, the rest....I just cannot even imagine a time or place where I will use any of it
  3. Chester AP

    Chester AP Well-Known Member

    From the above posts, I see a pattern emerging. Perhaps the compromise most of us make, assuming we can afford to buy what we want, is the balance between carrying a camera with a larger sensor than that in a smartphone, or a smartphone, and working within the limitations of whichever one we choose. I have a half-frame (APS-C) DSLR that I usually carry with only one lens, although I have a variety of lenses to choose from, and carry a very small basic mobile telephone which is very rarely used. Other people will choose to not carry any type of camera, but will carry a smartphone that is much larger than my mobile telephone.
  4. IvorETower

    IvorETower Little Buttercup

    ... and got your fingers burnt.....

    When it comes to photographic gear, particularly expensive gear, as the old saying goes "if its seems too cheap to be true, it probably is". Why pay, say £1800 for something from someone you don't know with no warranty rather than paying a bit more and buying from a reputable company backed by full warranty and customer service/support? I've dabbled with buying a handful of used lenses, and as I have said before some sellers' ideas of "good" condition are extremely optimistic so I would certainly be very, very wary of buying something costing several hundred pounds let alone a few thousand (assuming I could afford to spend that much!)
  5. Bazarchie

    Bazarchie Well-Known Member

    I am with you on this. I have bought some camera equipment from eBay, nothing expensive but that was several years ago and I avoid it. Like you I prefer to pay the extra and get a warranty.

    Back on topic, we visited on of the RHS gardens yesterday, my wife used her iPhone, I used a DSLR. Looking at her photos on an iPad they are very good. Mine have yet to be processed.
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  6. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    Let us put things into context
    In 15yrs I’ve made in excess of 1800 purchases. Pretty much trouble free throughout that 15yr period.
    In the last 10mths I’ve been scammed 3 times, clearly organised criminal gangs that are now able to obtain real Royal Mail Special Delivery Tracking Numbers that are either on my street or very very nearby. Hence the absolute nightmare of convincing eBay and PayPal that the item supposedly delivered was not my address or my name.

    Clearly the good times have gone, scammers are now aware of the rich pickings and the lazy attitude of PayPal and eBay.

    Although I was eventually refunded by eBay, PayPal were indignant that nothing was amiss and therefore would not get involved despite repeatedly stating both RM Fraud and the police were now involved. Their customer service is appalling. eBay refunded after several failed attempts, Again even giving then the police crime reference numbers, Royal Mail Fraud Ref numbers, both proving my case, they just refunded and never apologised for continuously saying I had the item, case closed.
    They are both as ruthless as the scammers.

    game over, I’ll go without
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2020
  7. John King

    John King In the Stop Bath

    The main reason that I will never use EBay/PayPal. I will order items only if I can speak to someone at the other end or if I have used them before with full satisfaction
  8. Chester AP

    Chester AP Well-Known Member

    Or purchased from the website of one of the reputable retailers who regularly advertise in AP? You can always email or telephone them and ask about the item you've found there. Unless 'sold for spares', the equipment has been checked by them. Dealing with stuff that is returned, or becomes the subject of a dispute, takes up much more time than checking it before sale. Guarantees offered are to cover the possibility that there is a fault they missed, and for your peace of mind when considering purchase. Retailers with decent websites will have secure online card payment arrangements too (look for the padlock symbol at the top left of the screen).
  9. ryancolin

    ryancolin Active Member

    Replying to Brian, I have to say I can totally see your point. I'm addicted to buying gear, but at the end of the day the photos of my kids using the Portrait mode on my Pixel 3a are simply stunning, and the Pixel is always the closest camera to hand.

    I usually don't bother to bring my "real" cameras on holiday, as they are just extra weight. I have to admit, the phone does the job more than adequately. In my opinion, only nature and sport photographers can really justify spending the big bucks on gear these days. Yeah, I know, that statement is full of holes but in the context of what we're talking about here, I think people will know what I mean.
  10. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    I 100% agree with you. Unless I need something specialised for fast sport or macro using fill flash - I honestly cannot see the advantage other than being a excuse to play photographer or you intend to output to huge proportions.

    The whole dynamics of modern image capture has moved so fast within the last decade that many who practiced their craft have their heads spinning- I certainly do!!
    But I need to accept that the once mystique of photography is now nothing than a simple press ( or tap) and flaws can easily be corrected instantly.

    Amazing time to take snaps either for fun or more serious.

    I sometimes feel like a dinosaur if I’m honest.
  11. lfc1892

    lfc1892 Well-Known Member

    I agree. I’ve posted plenty of stuff in appraisal taken with apple’s finest and it’s never been an issue
  12. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

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  13. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    That is impressive.
  14. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Brian, your images clearly demonstrate that it is the photographer not the camera. I have some photographs taken on my iPhones over the years (I am at the iPhone 6 so it isn't anything like as capable as yours) the results have been very good in decent light but from your results it appears the cameras are much improved. I am really impressed with your images.
  15. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Thanks for the kind remarks. I wondered if anyone would like to see the colour version. 50832859041_5c35a36233_k.jpg

    As for me being clever I don't think so. I saw the subject selected " portrait " mode and pressed the volume.....whoops, sorry....the shutter release. Plus a bit of editing.

    P.S. The original file is 6 mb but this is from the downsized file....about 450kb. Try clicking on the full size tab.....I don't reckon it's bad.
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2021
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  16. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    The mono, for me.
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  17. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    I agree
  18. lfc1892

    lfc1892 Well-Known Member

    Yeh the portrait mode on the new iPhones is pretty decent. The processing power on the new 12s is nuts. Of course, if you pixel peep, you’ll find where the software has made errors with edges etc,but it’s generally decent.

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