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Camera for shooting video

Discussion in 'General Equipment Chat & Advice' started by NorthernMonkey, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. NorthernMonkey

    NorthernMonkey Well-Known Member

    Hello all.

    I've found myself shooting a lot more video recently, and finding that my current cameras arent really up to the job.

    Being a massive nerd, Ive been videoing trains, and they tend to be fairly big and move pretty quick.

    I've got an EOS M which has terrible auto focus, and is limited to 25fps at 1080p. In order to make up for the terrible AF, I've been shooting at small apertures, so the DOF is enough, and as a result need silly high ISOs. I've been using this with the 22mm f/2 and the 18-55 lenses

    It's easier to get larger DOF on a smaller sensor, rather than the smaller DOF on full frame, so I think im after a smaller sensor camera, either APS-C or micro 4/3s, which can shoot at 60fps and can manage to track focus while videoing at f/8 or f/11.

    I'd also like the ability to plug in an external mic, because all internal mics are dreadful.

    Any suggestions and recommendations appreciated
  2. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Panasonic have made video their speciality.
  3. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    I think Blackmagic might have something suitable, they aren’t cheap though.
  4. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    What's your budget?
  5. Chester AP

    Chester AP Well-Known Member

    Irrespective of the equipment you use, it sometimes helps to learn from the work of a master (technique may be more important than hardware). This may be a better option than rushing to buy a new camera.

    He used 16 mm film (and probably a clockwork camera), manual focus, manual exposure ... I shot some 16 mm Ektachrome in the 1980s and recall that 3 minutes of film, including processing, cost about £20. He would have loved modern digital video, with the ability to experiment and learn at minimal cost.

  6. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    I video trains occasionally, and make good use of the WCML, MML near Bedford as well as the Marston Vale line. One of my sequences captured a Pendolino hitting a pigeon - didn't realise at the time, only on replay; but the snippet has been on YouTube for some time, and is my most popular video.

    I use a Canon Legria HF G30 mounted on a levelled tripod. It has two SD card slots which can be used in different ways. It's got a 20x optical zoom, a decent viewfinder as well as an LCD screen, and it takes Canon's dedicated plug-in microphones - directional or 5.1 Dolby, as well as having its own built-in mikes. I normally use the Canon external directional microphone whose "dead cat" muffler does a good job in removing wind noise, whilst capturing the train sounds.
    For trains I normally turn on the 3sec pre-record feature so that if I'm late in pressing the record button I don't miss the train's arrival. (On the Canon this feature is "sticky" and doesn't self-cancel after each use (which happens on my Panasonic X900. Grrrr!!))
    Various video "aids" can be turned on if required. If you spend time in the menus, the HF G30 is quite configurable, but I normally accept mid-quality Full HD for my records. It doesn't have a built-in fan, so there's nothing to mar the sound it records - again unlike my X900.

    I also have an Eos M & M5. I'd never try videoing with the M, but I was quite pleased with what my M5 captured. I've also videoed trains with my Canon SX40 HS where the massive zoom ratio did well when I was shooting narrow gauge on the Cob(?) at Portmadog. Whatever, I was pleased with my capture. Occasionally I've videoed with my Eos 7D MkII when I was taking advantage of the long lenses I have for bird photography. but my clear favourite is the now obsolete HF G30.

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