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AP's Alpha review

Discussion in 'Sony Chat' started by Damien_Demolder, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. Damien_Demolder

    Damien_Demolder Well-Known Member

    Hi all

    We've had an Alpha 100 for a few weeks now and its getting the test treatment as we speak. The review is down for 10 pages in the July 22 issue. We've also got a supplement dedicated to the new system free in the issue afterwards - July 29.

    So far it seems very good, and is set to keep Dynax fans very happy.

  2. RonM

    RonM Alpha Napper


    Ta much for the info :D, am still looking forward to seeing the review :)

    And when you're finished with it I know where it would get a good home and could also check that older 'A' mount lenses and Dynax accessories fit and function correctly ;)
  3. Damien_Demolder

    Damien_Demolder Well-Known Member

    Hi Ron

    Certainly the 'current' Dynax lens and accessory collection works fine - mainly because they are exactly the same products but with 'Minolta' spelt 'Sony'. I've been using a Sigma lens fitted for Dynax too, and that's been fine.

  4. RonM

    RonM Alpha Napper


    I'm still happy to volunteer my services and kit to fully determine if lenses such as the 135 STF and older 'A' mount zooms 35 - 70 & 70 - 210 f/4 will function also items such as wireless flash units, IR Remote releases, anglefinders, of course this may require a long term test situation ;) but am willing and able to undertake this arduous task for the sake of AP readers everywhere :)
  5. Damien_Demolder

    Damien_Demolder Well-Known Member

    You are very kind Ron
  6. tone580

    tone580 Member

    I've seen the recent review of the Alpha in the BJPP mag and i was impressed with what the camera can do however, i was a little dissapointed not to see any tests with 2.8 lens. I know the theory that better lens should produce better pics but it would be nice to see the test in accordance with the F3.5 lens used in the article.

    I have the following Minolta AF lens 20mm (2.8), 50mm (1.8), 24-70 (2.8) & 10mm Soft Focus (2.8).

    Any chance of a review on the horizon on these lens?
  7. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    Re: AP's Alpha review ....

    .... contains something I never thought I'd see in AP - pigeon porn!! ;) ;) ;) ;)
  8. napster

    napster Member

    Re: AP's Alpha review ....

    Hello first timer here!!

    Looking for some advice regarding the new Sony Alpha

    I have been hanging off buying a DSLR since the Minoltas departed.
    I got advised that the SOny had taken over and blah blah etc.
    Now the question I have is that I have an old Dynax 3000i with various lenses.

    Will these lenses fit, and if they do then work, with the new Sony???

    I know these lenses are old tech but they will do till I can progress further.

    Thanking you for any replies

  9. RonM

    RonM Alpha Napper

    Re: AP's Alpha review ....

    Hi Napster and welcome to the forums, you say that you have various lenses with your 3000i if they are all Minolta lenses then you should be OK (IIRC there may be some issues with xi lenses), this is based on the assumption that Sony have not changed any aspect of the lens mount and electronics from that developed by Minolta for the last film and digital Dynax bodies, which seems to be confirmed by Damiens comments. If some of your lenses are not Minolta then there may be issues, especially if they are older Sigmas, because of their reverse engineering there are known issues about older Sigmas not functioning with modern Minolta cameras (and I'd assume the same with the Alpha) If you click on my user name you'll see that I have a couple of older Minolta lenses 35-70 & 70-210 and both work perfectly on my Dynax 7 & 7D
  10. Hopeless_Andy

    Hopeless_Andy Well-Known Member

    Re: AP's Alpha review ....

    Hi Napster, I'm pretty sure all your lenses will work. I've got a couple of Dynax's (700si and 5) and I've been waiting to see whether the sony was going to be any good, cause I've spent a fair bit on compatible kit over the years. Very, very pleased to see the glowing review this morning cause I had been seriously thinking of ditching all my Minolta kit and going for an Olympus. Time for a rethink methinks.

    Not sure about flashguns though I've got a 3500xi and I'm hoping it'll be OK but couldn't swear to it.
  11. napster

    napster Member

    Re: AP's Alpha review ....

    Well so far so good!! and thanks for the replies.
    The lenses I actually have are:

    Vivitar 28-200mm AF Zoom (Stamped licensed from Minolta)

    and a

    Sirius 28-70mm AF Zoom

    Probably antique by now but better to recycle (ahem)

    Cheers again !!
  12. DaveO

    DaveO New Member


    Just read the review in the mag this lunchtime. Very comprehensive and has beaten the on-line review sites to the punch!

    I have a question about one aspect of the review. It refers to a lack of low level detail in the sand dunes (I think those are the words, the mag is in the car as I type this).

    Lack or low level detail relative to what? Other d-slrs of similar resolution (Nikon D200 and Canon 30D for example).

    Or relative to the best that can be achieved from film?

    I am pretty sure I have seen similar comments in other AP digital camera reviews in the past and it would be nice to have a reference point for what is meant by this.

    Is it no better than the current crop of 6mp d-slrs or is it falling short of the D200 but still better then something like an Oly E-500?

  13. Clotty

    Clotty New Member

    Having read the review in WDC, I was a little disapointed as the reviewer said there was no histogram available, is this the same camera as in the pictures and in the reviews on the net?
    in this one a histogram is available!
    Also the comments about shutter noise, can these guys be a little more objective and measure the noise in relation to other DSLR's or 35mm SLR's, just to say it's louder isn't a lot of use to us poor old readers.
    I was hoping for a replacement for my old Dynax 505 and I'm hoping my sigma 28-200 will work with the alpha 100, it's about 5 years old, any one know ?

    Cheers folks
  14. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    I think what Damien said was at certain points the detail in the dunes turned into mush. This happens because either (a) the sensor runs out of resolution, or (b) the in-camera software is unable to interpret the information from the sensor, or, more likely, a combination of these two effects.

    Its an occupational hazard with many digital cameras unfortunately. In this review, Damien did pose the question of what might have happened with better optics (the whole review was done with the mediocre kit lenses remember), so don't rush to judgement on this aspect yet.
  15. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    Perhaps WDC's reviewer is of a level where he/she would be challenged by a disposable camera's complexities. :D
  16. RonM

    RonM Alpha Napper

    Hi Clotty,

    I have a Sigma 28 - 300 for my Minolta Dynax's 600Si, 7 film and digital and it works on all of them, I'd reckon my Sigma is probably be of a similar age to yours so in all likelihood you should be OK.
    If you know of anyone with a more modern Dynax than your 505 such as the film 7, 5, 60, 50, 40 or either of the DSLR's that you could try your 28 -200 on then if it works on any of them it'll work on the Alpha.

    Oh BTW welcome to the forum :)
  17. Damien_Demolder

    Damien_Demolder Well-Known Member

    Hi Dave O

    The 'lack of detail' is in relation to what you might expect at maximum print size for that sensor. The comparison is made to the amount of detail other cameras produce at their maximum print sizes, whether 6MP, 8MP or 12MP. In other words we would expect more detail from a sensor of 10MP, compared as well to other cameras with this many pixels.

    In a couple of weeks time we have a comparison test between the Alpha 100, Nikon D70s, Olympus E-500 and Canon EOS 30D in a 32 page supplement. I test and compare resolution in this, and then you will see exactly what I mean.


    And the camera does have a histogram - and a dedicated button to access it.

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