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Anyone know the story behind this one?

Discussion in 'Classic Models & Marques' started by Brian, Jun 9, 2021.

  1. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

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  2. gray1720

    gray1720 Well-Known Member

    Unless you are teasing us, Brian, if you don't know then who on earth will?

    If you really don't know than all I can think of is asking Oleg/Fedka.
  3. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Oh yes I know ;)
  4. gray1720

    gray1720 Well-Known Member

    OK - well, I can't remember if it's in your work or not, so I'm going to take a potshot that it dates to the crossover period when the Contax machinery had first been moved to the USSR and the first top plates were rolling off the machines. Though the CZJ lens cap suggests otherwise, I might as well play!
  5. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Don't know what it's called. So we shall he to call it " The No Name"

    No really........

    A rare variant of the Kiev-4A is the 'No-name' Kiev, so called because there are no engravings on it other than the serial number, t
    It is equipped with a Carl Zeiss:2 f=0mm lens.

    The story goes that Kiev had a surplus of Zeiss lenses as a result of their seizure in 1945/6. So to use them up they fitted them to a " No Name" camera ,mainly to sell to the USA. They are listed as being produced in 1963 but I have two, one that year and the other 1964. Now the 1964 version has a Jupiter lens, story is they made more bodies than they need. But after some time I found the 1963 with Zeiss Sonnar......or rather a friend in Kiev did.Funnily enough a good way to tell the genuine ones is the ever ready case. The No Name case hasn't got the usual embossed nose cone, it's blank.

    Some examples are engraved " Made in USSR occupied Germany" this engraving was possibly added by unscrupulous dealers in order to convince people that it was a German camera.
  6. gray1720

    gray1720 Well-Known Member

    Photographed the desert with a Kiev with no name?

    That's intriguing - how odd!
  7. Simon Leung

    Simon Leung Well-Known Member

    The back of the top cover should have the words:

    USSR Occupied Germany engraved, it was designed for export to the United States approximately 5,000 were produced.
  8. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    The interesting thing about the Kiev "Contaxes" is that they are surprisingly reliable, at least in my experience...

    Kiev camera in ERC GH2 P1320261.JPG
  9. Simon Leung

    Simon Leung Well-Known Member

    This is version is known as the Kiev 4M, one can tell by the black tip self-timer and black shutter speed dial. Manufactured between 1976-87.
  10. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Yes. I had an earlier one which had the all metal self timer and the older rewind knob design. I sold that one on when I got an "inexpensive" Leica M3.
  11. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Brian literally wrote the book on Kiev rangefinders. ;)

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