well, used one anyway./img/wwwthreads/smile.gif Upto 6x7cm - simply because I can enlarge to that size now easily (and have a good lens to do so with). I was thinking about £600 tops, and wanting to purchase around November time. I have been thinking about a Pentax 67, Mamiya RB (if I can find one cheap enough in good nick) or possibly a Bronica SQ. I was also considering a good Rollieflex, eg. 3.5F Planar. Perhaps you lot could tell me what you think has the best optical quality lenses available when stopped down to their optimum aperture (I rarely shoot wide open). thanks, Rob NRIPN If something's not worth doing, it's worth forgetting about.