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A good bit of justice

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by dream_police, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

  2. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Imagine doing that in the UK.

    What if he slips on a rock and hurts himself? What if he falls down and gets squashed by the fridge? What if ........
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  3. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    I doubt he will do it again , and if he had been squished by it, he certainly would not. Even the fine was mind blowing.
    Mind you, when Franco was in charge he would not have dared do it anyway.
    If that was what the regular police did, think what the Civil Guard would have done to him. if they had been involved.
    You do not even dare smile at them.

    The Spanish are not so bothered about health and safety .. think bull fights and bull running.
  4. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    Love it. £41k fine and then he's got to get it back.
    I would love to see it in the UK.
  5. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    Just look in a layby...
  6. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    A farmer friend of mine got so fed up of flytipping on his land, so when he caught someone he followed them home. He then went back to his farm, loaded a 10 ton trailer with every bit of rubbish dumped on his land and returned to the persons home and dumped the whole lot on their driveway. Flytipping was never a problem after that.
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  7. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    They were:
  8. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    A few years ago a family in Mid Devon had an awfull time. They rented a surplus outbuilding to a bloke who claimed he was going to run a legitimate business from it but then used the place as an illegal tip. Even though he was convicted the farmers were left with a huge bill for the cleanup. :(
  9. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    Perhaps we need some civil Guard units here.

    We should take a leaf out of the Spanish courts. and make them pay up.
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  10. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    The civil guards that are straight up fascist* thugs? No thank you.

    *check their insignia
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  11. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    I was a resident in Madrid during Generalissimo Franco's rule in the 50's.
    The Franco style Fascism was very different to that of Germany and Italy, it was totally anti communist but was very much socialist itself, albeit somewhat puritanical and dictatorial.

    With the police, secret police, Civil Guards and informer network, the whole population were under surveillance. But crime of all kinds was minimal.
    Church law had the status of civil law, and was enforced. Even the night watchmen (guardia serano) that held your house keys and let you in at night, were controlled by the police. and noted all comings and goings.

    If you came home late, you would sing out for the serano and he would come tapping up the street with his night stick and let you in. Almost no one had their own keys to the apartment blocks.

    However all this had no noticeable effect on ones daily life. You felt incredibly safe
    The Falange could still be seen parading on a Sunday near the University campo. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FET_y_de_las_JONS )
    they were not to be dissolved until the seventies after the demise of Franco. but even in the 50's had little if any relevance to most people.
    Their Ideology was based on...
    Which together made up a fairly potent and coherent ideology. ( National syndicalism incorporated the trade unions into the mix.)
  12. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Interesting. There is no doubt that for those passive souls who comply with these regimes, life can be quite pleasant.
  13. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    Indeed but for Ex-Comunists it was very very restricted. We had a chap in our studio who, as a communist, was barred from ever holding a position of authority over some one else.
    Sort of permanent bottom rung employee. But in other respects was left alone and had the same benefits. Nor did it stop him being promoted to senior technician, but with out any supervisory capacity. ( apart from having travel restrictions, requiring reporting his movements to the police in advance, not that they ever said no.)

    The civil war was still fresh in their minds at that time... and the winner gets to sets the rules and conditions.

    There were advantages for the employees.
    Wages were set not just by what you did but also your personal circumstances. There was a annual personal meeting held between the syndicate (union), your employer and yourself. where your wage was determined. If you had married or had a child or you housing costs had risen. you would have got an appropriate rise.
    Your employer was also responsible for you medical and dentistry costs and any special education costs. Schooling for your children was dependant on your church attendance. or you would have had to pay privately. National service was compulsory for men and women but could be in the military or social and health services.
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  14. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    People who did not(or would not) support their families, were collected by the police each morning, and put to public service work. their wages for this, were paid to their wives.
    This continued until they found a job.
  15. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I wonder how much of it was a case of the devil having attained the throne of heaven being forced to behave like god. Or perhaps it was "He's too busy to see what we're up to so let's do some good before he notices it". Either way it's interesting that a fascist dictatorship could set up a better social system than our tories. :(

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