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60D Street/Urban Lens

Discussion in 'Lens Matters' started by Toast, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    Hi Guys.

    I would like to get a lens or two for my 60D, I want to photo people in the street, in cafes, market places, day and night with a wide lens if poss.
    The first two I have thought about but are not sure for one reason or another.
    Sigma 10-20.. great lens to have and I will own one but its a bit too wide angle.
    Canon 15-85.. good lens but you can get better spec for you money.

    These I think might be better and waiting to see what you say or think.

    Canon 28mm f2.8.
    Canon 50mm f1.4 USM
    Sigma 50mm f1.4 EX DG HSM
    Canon 17-40mm f4 USM
    Sigma 17-70 f2.8

    Now I will post a couple of pictures to help matters perhaps, I'm not sure if what I want is deemed as a walkabout lens but anyway.

    Cheers
     
  2. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    Here's the photos..

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    Sorry about doing it this way but tecnical problems have meant that its taken me nearly four hours do to this thread and now I've got a headache.
    The street one is what I want and the girlie one I put in to show how close I want to get.

    Cheers
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2012
  3. beejaybee

    beejaybee Marvin

    Please note I am not a specialist in street photography.

    But I would think you want a lens that is light, not bulky and quick to use (to maximise the opportunity for "grab shots". Ask yourself, do you really need a zoom lens, or is the extra size and slower operation going to be a disadvantage ... especially since it's likely to be easier to "see" the composition without drawing attention to yourself by raising the camera to your eye if working with a fixed focal length.

    50mm on an APS-C camera is a mild tele lens, probably not enough for pulling in tight shots but certainly too much for a lot of the street grab shots I've seen. The Canon 17-40 is a surprisingly big lump & mine is "adequate" rather than "good" in terms of optical performance - the benefit in my case is that it is a true wide angle zoom, on my full frame 5D camera, and it's a lot cheaper than the 16-35. For what it is, the Sigma 17-70 is great value, I much prefer it to the usual 18-55 kit lens or the Canon 17-85 for that matter, but do note that it's only f/2.8 at the 17mm end, dropping rapidly to f/4.5 at the 70mm end ... and there's no image stabilization. I'd reccomend it as a tourist walkaround lens if you bought your 60D as a body only rather than as a kit with a standard zoom included.

    But, if you're into street photography, of the lenses you list, the 28mm f/2.8 would be the one to go for.
     
  4. rjbell

    rjbell Well-Known Member

    Street photographer purists would say a 50mm prime lens for a Full frame or a 28 or 35mm prime on a aps-c camera like yours. I use a Tamron 17-50mm constant f/2.8 through the zoom range. Its fast, compact, sharp and reasonably light perfect for street photography.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2012
  5. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    Sigma 30mm f1.4?
     
  6. TimF

    TimF With as stony a stare as ever Lord Reith could hav

    Do you need the high speed for SP? Many street togs pre-focus at around 3 metres at a middling aperture and just shoot when they see something. Grabbing that first frame is the important thing, making adjustments to subsequent shots is something you can do if the opportunity arises
     
  7. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    I guess that depends of the time of day. But I have heard good things about this lens and it is pretty perfect from lenght point of view (48mm in 35mm terms).
     
  8. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    Good replies so far but having two lenes might offer a tad more.. perhaps the 28mm and 50mm as a pair.

    Some more info on my side.. on the Canon software I have info on what data the photo hasd been shot at and I have looked loads of photos I have taken and the most used mm is the 20mm to 28 mm range.

    Please add any lens that I havn't mentioned that you like.... that would be helpful of course.
     
  9. mrganderson

    mrganderson Well-Known Member

    Im a professional Street photographer and i agree the 17-50mm 2.8 tamron lens is a good choice. especially in low light. its also quite a low price for such a good lens. I also have a sigma 18-200mm. which can be a bit bulky but you would be surprised just how often you use it. It can be a bit soft but Street photography isn't about image quality, its about subject matter. the extra reach does allow you to get shot you otherwise wouldn't get. plus it has OS. so its worth a consideration.
    I also have a 50mm prime and a 30mm prime which the latter is great when your in close in say a market place. It also produces a more retro look as its close to the old 50mm standard lens used in the old days.
    as a street photographer your need to be versatile and you don't want to be carrying loads of equipment around. so just pick two lens.
     
  10. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    Hi..

    They list 2 Tamron 17-50mm lenses which one do you have if you dont mind me asking.

    Cheers
     
  11. rjbell

    rjbell Well-Known Member

    I have the non VC version.
     
  12. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    OK ..Thanks
     
  13. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    These prices are from CPB..

    Sigma 10-20 question with price (approx)

    The f3.5 is £470 and the f4-5.6 £390 but is the f3.5 worth the extra..

    Cheers.
     
  14. Done_rundleCams

    Done_rundleCams AP Forum Ambassador to Canada

    Re: 60D Street/Urban Lens -- Hola Toast :)

    Hola Toast,

    Regarding your initial question, which lens for shooting Street / People? My
    usual response is the lens that you have on your camera ;) even though it may
    not always be the correct lens.

    For my street/people shooting, the one I most preferred, after years of experimenting, was my Tamron 18-250 with one body. If I had two bodies,
    it was a 12-24 and a 50-135/2.8 and/or a 300/4.5. Currently, it is (the equivalent
    of) a 47/1.9 lens on my Pentax Q :) So, having said all the above cr@p;

    I would recommend an EF-S 18-200 or, even better IMVHO, the Tamron 18-270 PZD VC lens and your choice (from a variety of a) ultra-wide lenses :) I have sold a number of the Sigma 8-16 which I rate as much better lens then any of there (Sigma's) 10-20 series. Also, at a lower cost and a very good lens (with no
    negative feedback from customers) is the Tamron 10-24/3.5-4.5 :)

    Hope this helps a wee bit and look forward to seeing some pics :)

    BTW, I used to live in the same neck of the woods as you, albeit a few miles
    west (Torremolinos and Marbella).

    Cheers,

    Jack
     
  15. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    Re: 60D Street/Urban Lens -- Hola Toast :)

    Hi.. Drc

    Thanks for your info, hadn't thought of the Tamron 10-24 or the Sigma 8-16.

    At the moment I'm trying to get all the info I can and then work out a budget and see what would be the best lens options.
    Along the lines of my other post I had thought of a Sigma 30mm at £370 but for £440 just a little extra dosh I could get the Canon 28mm £160 and the Canon 50mm £280 which would give me more option on what you can shoot.
    So a budget would be my next thing to do, but there is a lot of lens options..

    PS.. I live just north of Malaga in a village called Trabuco its about 30 miles from Malaga airport..

    Cheers.

    Paul.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2012
  16. Toast

    Toast Well-Known Member

    Now to the exciting bit.. What have I got to spend.

    After a bit of a conflab with SHMBO the cash I have to spend is £1000... plus a bit more if needed.
    So with street/urban in mind what lenses would you buy with that money.
    Two or three or four lenes perhaps..

    Cheers.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2012
  17. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    One would be the The EF 17-40mm f/4L USM great image quality and good compact all arounder, weather prof and has internal focusing so the front of the lens does not turn, but beeing a L it comes at a price.
    If you don't need wetherprof and are happy with APS-C sensor the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM has got some good reviews.
    On the other hand I would defenetly compare them to the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2012
  18. beejaybee

    beejaybee Marvin

    Don't spread your money thinly ... learn to get the best out of one lens, when you know what it's not doing that you'd like it to do you'll have a better idea of where to spend more.

    If I had to spend £1000 right now I'd find a few more pence from somewhere & go for the Zeiss 28mm f/2 Distagon ZE which is (a) a brilliant piece of glass and (b) pretty well ideal for street photography on an APS-C format camera, the way I understand it. If your street style is markedly different from "traditional" then I'm afraid anything I say won't be helpful.
     
  19. beejaybee

    beejaybee Marvin

    No, it's a fairish wide zoom on a full frame camera, the resolution is not good despite the red ring on the lens barrel. It's a bigger lump than you'd imagine. It's hardly any better on a APS-C camera than the EF 18-55 IS kit lens and lacks some of the "pull" at the longer end. Serious waste of money if you ask me.
     
  20. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    shame you got a bad one.
     

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