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You would buy now Canon 50/1.4?

Discussion in 'Lens Matters' started by Oleg2016, Jun 26, 2019.

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  1. Oleg2016

    Oleg2016 Well-Known Member

    Hello,
    I have a desire to buy Canon 50/1.4
    now a lot of interesting Prime Lens , for example Canon 50/1.8 STM ,Canon 24/2.4 STM
    you would buy now Canon 50/1.4? Your attitude to this lens 50/1.4
     
  2. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    The f1.4 was a lot more sturdy than the f1.8 MkII but I don't think the advantage is so great over the latest f1.8 STM type. Another advantage used to be focus speed as the older f1.8 versions didn't have the faster USM drive but since the STM drive seems to be as fast or possibly a bite faster than USM that advantage has gone.

    Do you do a lot of low light stuff? The f1.4 is perhaps a bit better at f2 and f4 than the f1.8 and the viewfinder image should be a bit brighter with more reliable AF in poor light.

    For general use I'm not sure I'd pay the premium price for the f1.4 - of course a used bargain may be another matter...

    PS I'd forgotten you use an APS format camera. On the APS format I find 50mm a bit long for a general use lens - for that I prefer 24 or 28mm.
     
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  3. Oleg2016

    Oleg2016 Well-Known Member

    THANKS! :)
    50/1.8 STM price advantage. if you choose 50/1.8 STM VS 50/1.4 ?
     
  4. SqueamishOssifrage

    SqueamishOssifrage Well-Known Member

    I cannot comment on Canon lenses as I am not a Canon user, but no matter where I am going or what I am planning to photograph I always have my 50mm/f:1.4 with me. It has got me out of trouble several times. Although I also have a f:1.7 version, which was a lot cheaper, the 1.4 was useable at f:2, whereas the 1.7 was not. I should imagine an f:1.8 would be even less so.

    For me, the additional cost was well worth it. YMMV!
     
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  5. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    If I was buying a 50 mm focal length prime then I'd buy the F1.4 (for use on a full frame camera).

    However, I've so far managed without and I've been using Canon EOS cameras (film then digital full frame) for about 20 years!

    On a crop sensor I don't know. I rarely do portrait work that would benefit from a 50/1.4 (giving fov of a 75/1.4 on FF). On my Fuji I more often curse than praise the 55 mm end of its zooms (18-55, 55-200) as being too short/long according to which is on the camera.
     
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  6. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    F1.8 STM probably. I rarely shoot very wide open and don't use my f1.8 that much anyway as I find it is often either a bit too long or a bit too short for what I am photographing - it's not a comfortable focal length for APS format...
     
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  7. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    I don't use Canon cameras so I can't comment directly on specific lenses but I can tell you a story.
    Go back about 40 years and zoom lenses were rare and expensive most people had a 50mm lens of between f1.8 and f2.8 as their "standard" lens. They might have had a 28 as a wide angle and possibly a 135 but that would probably have been it. Film was either 25, 50 or 100 ASA (ISO now) so a fast aperture was always a good idea to get suitable shutter speeds.

    The world has changed and zooms are now common place, good quality and either fast or reasonably priced. It is now prime lenses that are expensive. Digital has taken away some of the need for fast lenses with very much better high ISO performance than readily available film, I remember pushing B&W film to 1600 but tosay I can use 6400 and get a better result.

    Effectively then a 50 f1.4 is a specialist lens. I have one a Nikon AF 50 f1.4 D that is around 25 years old, I rarely use it. Instead I rely on an AF-S 24-70 f2.8 G because my 50 f1.4 stopped down to f5 isn't any better as far as I can see. Wide open is another matter but that is somewhere I rarely go so updating my 50 f1.4 isn't even on my list.

    In conclusion, if you are going to use it close to wide open on a regular basis a 50 f1.4 may well be a good buy, if it is going to spend its life stopped down to f5.6 it may not be the best use of the money. I am not going to fall into the trap of saying that an f1.8 is cheaper and only 1/3 stop slower because the computation of the f1.4 will be far enough away from that of the f1.8 to make it a different animal entirely.
     
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  8. Oleg2016

    Oleg2016 Well-Known Member

    THANKS!! Very interesting
    Prime lenses aren't exactly popular?
     
  9. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    In sales terms, no but if you want decent speed in a telephoto there isn't much option, say 300mm and up.
     
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  10. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Depends! I prefer the flexibility of zooms on the whole, some people prefer primes. In Canon I do have primes, generally bought for specific purposes. for example I have a 24 mm TSE bought for building photography, a 100 mm macro and some telephotos where you get a speed and weight advantage. If you look to Fuji their base market is people who prefer primes to zooms and they have a very wide selection of prime lenses.
     
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  11. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    I've had an EF 50 F/1.4 for many years (since film days as well as 50 F/1.8); and stopped down to around f/5.6 it's produced some of my sharpest photos., but it is regarded as a slightly delicate lens, and some years ago, mine needed repair - after which it was better at F/1.4. Sadly, I can't remember when I last used it!

    Today I was checking out my EF 85 F/1.4 IS on my Eos M5 with EF to EF-M adapter, and the weight imbalance is just crazy.
     
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