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Why so much Olympic Bah Humbug?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by PhilW, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    Here and elsewhere I'm seeing/hearing a huge amount of bah humbug relating to the Olympics. And am interested in why this is so?

    I've always loved the Olympics - even as a kid.

    While not being particularly interested in most of the sports (especially athletics) I do enjoy Sport in the more general sense. The Olympics for me is a fantastic festival of Sport, a celebration of the dedication and sheer effort of every single competitor to be the best that they can be.

    I also enjoy the international element of it. outside of politics how often is it that so many representatives from so many nations gather together for one event.

    And then once the competition starts I will inevitably get drawn in to the overall competition part of it. How many medals have team GB won, what do we need to win.... and will end up watching fencing or some other sport I don't understand because there is a crucial medal to be won.

    All in all a completely fabulous couple of weeks every 4 years, this year being even more fabulous than usual because it's going on here.

    So what is there not to love about it?
  2. Bejay

    Bejay Well-Known Member

    I guess because we're halfway between Christmas humbugs...
  3. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    1) Probably the sponsorship element detracts from the inclusiveness of the general public.
    2) the ballsup with ticket allocation, especially when we find out events are undersubscribed, (above) sponsors probably hoped to make a killing there.
    3) the thought that most of Britain feels estranged from the London Olympic Games?
    4) the lack of obvious advantages being offered to the general public (legacy).
    5) the memory of the Millennium Dome fiasco?

    Just a few things to ponder and maybe explain a degree of cynicism in the general population.

    The Games themselves? Yes, I'll be watching them (if the BBC don't hog the airtime with talking-heads)! But don't get me started on the worthies of the Beeb getting their special moments.
  4. Roy5051

    Roy5051 Well-Known Member

    All the hype. Why can't we just have a couple of weeks of top class sport without all the humbug that goes with it. We have been having reports on tv and in the papers for what seems months now, and I am thoroughly sick of it before it even starts.

    It seems a celebration of "celebrity" more than sport; and moans and groans about what is going wrong, how it's going to be one big cock-up. And the security......it's really ridiculous; most of our police forces are going to be in London, hundreds of servicemen, hoodies employed as security guards (if you believe the papers!) - the whole shenanigans has got on my bloody nerves and I wish I could go away for a fortnight and miss it all. Regular TV programmes disrupted, why can't they shift the lot of it onto BBC3 and BBC4 and leave the rest of us to get on with our lives?

    I hope to God that we win some medals.....
  5. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    I used to love the olympics.
    I now hate the commercialisation and restrictions and rights grabs that go along with sponsorship.

    Sponsors have been given too many rights
    when they limit the normal rights of others, things have gone too far.

    Fortunately a few other local events are going on at the same time.

    The Manchester Commonwealth Games got the balance just right....
  6. DaveS

    DaveS Well-Known Member

    Pretty much what the above two have posted, plus the total wall-to-wall BBC hype:mad:

    I was quite positive about it when we bought the bid (I won't say "won" since it was a straight-up auction), but now . . .

    The only positive was that it put the Frenchies noses out-of-joint, something always worth doing;)
  7. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    That's a very good point. While it doesn't spoil it for me, I can see why it drives negativity.

    I wonder where it comes from? I mean I can understand that if the games are going to be incredibly expensive then you need sponsors to share the cost, and with that sponsorship comes the whole commercialisation bit.

    But who actually wants an incredibly expensive Games? You see cities desperately trying to out bid each other to host the games, but it is ultimately the Olympic organisation that awards them. If they said "hang on chaps, reduce the cost by 80% at least. We don't need any new facilities and a fancy opening ceremony and the athletes can travel by tube...."

    I bet most sports fans wouldn't mind at all! Where is the pressure coming from? Are the Sponsors pressuring the Olympic people to go down this route?

    All a shame for sure, but hardly restricted to the Olympics - pretty much all sport has gone this way :(
  8. beejaybee

    beejaybee Marvin

    Not to mention the "better than royalty" treatment that the Olympic administrators demand (Zil lanes etc).

    Have the Games by all means. Expect the uninterested to suffer, no. The more TPTB hype the thing up, the more anti i'll become.
  9. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    Hype - I wonder if that's why I am relatively un-jaded

    I watch on average less than 1 hour's tv a week (though an hour a day for the TdF highlights the last few have been a lot more than that).

    And don't read the papers.
  10. P_Stoddart

    P_Stoddart Well-Known Member

    If you put aside the restriction in Stratford etc.

    It's the effect it has on the local area and around the country. I mean the positive effect.

    Remember some of the competitors grew up in the area and London.

    Must be a real buzz to be doing it on home soil.

    You walk around Westfield you see some of the teams who are visiting. That is unique.

    It is a real party atmosphere. :)

    But I agree I would like to see the commercial side dialed back.
  11. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    The so called partners are not partners, they are commercial organisations out to rip visitors off for as much as they can...look at the ridiculous rules regarding chips...only that ruddy firm owned by a horror movie clown are allowed to sell them within a two thousand mile radius (ok exageration I know but hey).
    The fact that everything is going to cost more, be delayed etc because they'll be able to blame the o word.
    That's a nother one...not being allowed to string a sentence together which has certain words relating to the event in it for commercial use...
    The events themselves are fine but it's just the circus that comes with it I can't stand bah humbug
  12. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Cheers man! I know my place...
    If you'd crept up to the third above (mine) you'd see I totally agree about the Beeb. lol
  13. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    I was in Manchester during the Commonwealth Games in 2002, and I agree. Central Manchester was very pleasant to visit, and the hype was about right. I even managed to get some shots of the Baton going past where I was staying.

    A560 just east of the A34 traffic lights - Cheadle / Gatley boundary. Note the one security as opposed to the 3 or 4 for the Olympics Torch.


    However the police were out in force, and just before the above shot the procession had a rest, and they had more m/bikes than I saw at the Olympic Torch relay. A560 200m east of the A34.

    Yes - 10 m/bikes.

    (Both above shots from a 2MP Nikon Coolpix 775.)
  14. spangler

    spangler Well-Known Member

    The way the public are being brainwashed, am I in the UK or North Korea? No doubt while it's all going on HMG will be slipping more repressive legislation under the wire (like the legislation introduce in 2006 that is responsible for all the sponsor protection nonsense and the LOGOC Gestapo)!

  15. GDN

    GDN Well-Known Member

    I think Catriona has nailed most of my points. The ticket fiasco left me feeling underwelmed and very disappointed.

    The whole sponsorship and olympic partners leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Whilst I know money is required to pay for the games, most of it (Billions) have come from the UK tax payer, whereas £700m (from the Independant) has come from sponsorship. Yet Seb Coe and his cronies seem to be putting the sponsors before Joe Public.
  16. TheFatControlleR

    TheFatControlleR :Devil's Advocaat: Forum Admin

    The fact it's a public purse finance marketing fest for the worlds largest multinationals, plus the hype/propaganda commanding that I support and enjoy the whole ******* circus.

    Foxtrot Oscar!! :mad:
  17. GDN

    GDN Well-Known Member

    Where's the like button? :D
  18. beejaybee

    beejaybee Marvin

    Don't worry, they will. If there's anything the BBC are truly great at, it's talking air heads. The tradition goes way back to Reith, unfortunately however the clowns they employ these days don't even bother to do their research properly whereas Richard Dimbleby, Brian Johnston et al usually did - and had the common sense to know that sometimes silence speaks volumes.

    If there were medals for spouting cr*p, this country would never be short of gold reserves, even if Gordon the Prudent returned as Chancellor of the Exchequer.
  19. DaveS

    DaveS Well-Known Member

    Sorry about that, wasn't intending to slight you :eek:
  20. Dorset_Mike

    Dorset_Mike Grumpy Old Fart

    Sport in this country and much of the world has virtually ceased to exist apart from things like maybe village green cricket, even local league soccer sides have "Sponsors"

    As I have said elsewhere I don't consider the event worthy of a capital O, I would classify the whole thing as a series of media events of no interest to me whatsoever. the last sporting event I watched was when I took a grandson to a Minor counties cup final at Lords.

    The meeja has ballsed up just about every sport possible, changing rules to make it more attractive to viewers (and thus advertisers), idolising "celebs",

    So far this year I've watched about 1 hour of TV (Jools Holland's new years eve do, pure nostalgia, I used to watch it every year with my late wife)

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