Discussion in 'Help Team' started by Jedi, Apr 11, 2002.
Ah, that's probably been very heavily used!/img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
Have a look at a new Centon K100 or DF300 with 50mm lens from Jessops or cheaper at Hilton photographic (see my post under Centon thread in the Branded Cameras forum) and you won't have to worry about scratches, dents or owning someone elses old unreliable cast offs.
When I sell my no-longer-used gear, it is sold in excellent condition and in full working order. It is not an 'unreliable cast off'.
Not all s/h stuff is suspect - there are bargains to be had out there if you are sensible.
I am not saying that all s/h gear is unreliable cast offs, however for someone to ask advice on this forum as regards equipment within their budget and they read as I have done about members saying things like watch out for dents - a sign of misuse or having been dropped, paint coming off - possible long term and heavy use so parts may be getting rather worn and need replacing or the meter may be inaccurate and on the way out, etc then all I was saying was what someone said early on and that was they have the choice to buy new which greatly reduces the chances of coming across the aforementioned problems, though some new equipment may be faulty I will have to say but that would be in the minority.
As regards s/h gear, sure I have traded in or sold my cameras in the past and they have all been in gwo, but there was 2 occasions that I got rid of dodgy gear, they were a 10 year old Olympus XA2 with a dodgy rewind release mechanism and the other was a newish Praktica B200 that had a problem which I cannot remember what, but I tried to fix it and it all went wrong and so I just put it back together and traded it in at a camera shop luckily the camera just happened to work this one time and the sales assistant never did a thorough check on it, so someone would have bought a duff Praktica, both these incidents were about 10 years ago.
I am lucky enough to never had to buy s/h photographic equipment and I never will.
Incase you are thinking that I am lucky you are wrong, as what I do buy s/h is cars and I have been done a few times by buying privately (low)quality (well)used (old)cars./img/wwwthreads/frown.gif
Come to think of it, I would not hesitate to spend thousands of pounds on a secondhand car (I have previously owned 3 brand new cars in the past), or buy secondhand houses, or the occasional piece of secondhand furniture, but I won't even consider buying secondhand photographic equipment only new. Funny eh?
Like I said, almost all my gear is second hand and I've not had the slightest problem in years. I would think twice before buying a Centon, as their build quality is reputedly pretty dodgy, and the only Chinese camera I've ever owned, a Seagull which I believe came from the same factory, was highly dodgy. No, s/h can make a lot more sense than bargain basement new product. And if you've never bought s/h, Billy, how do you know you've been lucky? It's a bit like those people who said "I've never drunk Guinness because I don't like it"!/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif
Today in Manchester spotted a minty black Nikkormat with lens for £102. So go to your local Jessops and get them to transfer it, which they will do with no obligation on your part to purchase. This camera comes with a guarantee and is the ideal choice for anyone starting off, in fact it is an excellent buy for anyone.
Yup, old but lovely, and probably good for many more years yet.
In case you are unaware Nikkormat is a name Nikon used to use a few years ago. It's good advice - then you can go along to your local Jessops & handle it.
Cor Blimey, thats a lot of posts for little old me! Maybee AP'l do an article
Ok, this morning decided to go out looking for...a 2ndhand manual focus SLR with 50mm lens.
Visited the local jessops who showed me the contax and mentioned they could get used stock form any of their stores.
I Also visited a local specialist; CTS Portsmouth. They were VERY helpful (and patient) explained the common features of SLRs and lenses and took me through them on some of their stock. They reccomended an Olympus OM10 with 50mmlens at £95. Had to try very hard to fight the urge to walk out with it there and then!!
Looking around it seems to be an average price for the camera, although many come with a manual adaptor (dont know what that is /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif). I'd rather buy face to face and I did rather like the look of it.
So what do you guys think?
P.s. Thaks again for all your help.
....bit like you in that respect then Nick.....well, apart from the "lovely" bit! /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
The OM10 is overpriced. Check out Ebay (www.ebay.co.uk) where there are literally dozens for them for sale and they generally go for about £50! Also be aware that OM10's have an unenviable reputation for dodgy shutter magnets which can fail and be an uneconomic repair. The Olympus OM2N is probably the best manual SLR Olympus ever made so look out for one of those instead if you are determined to go for Olympus.
I'm not a Nikon expert but I beleive the Nikkormat is aperture priority exposure only. I don't know if it has any manual control but if it hasn't then this could prove limiting for certain types of photography so check with some of the Nikon guys first.
So are you a Pompey lad or are you studying at Pompey Uni (I am/did both)?
Hang on a mo........THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DON'T LIKE GUINNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are they mad! /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
Will, you're right about the Oly being too dear, but you've posted in the wrong place! (You did below about the Guinness as well, and yes, they are mad!)
...sorry Nick, too much Guinness you know! /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif
Thought it might be![drunkyface]
...what about the Nikkormat Nick? Was I right about it being aperture priority only with no manual exposure control? I know Fangs has/had one of these so no doubt he could give us a definitive answer if you're not sure.
I don't know. I'm not aware of an auto-only Nikkormat, but I'm not up-to-speed with all Nikkormat models. I thought the first (and only) auto-only Nikon was the Nikon EM, which Fangy has got, but I could well be wrong on that.
...you're probably your usual inflatable self on that one Nick, like I say, I'm no expert on the Nikons (where's Tim and Geoff when you need them!). We'll check with Fangs later when he comes out of his coffin.
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