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What grinds your gears?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by retrofit, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    One adult one vote. Repeat as required.
     
  2. Pete Bony

    Pete Bony Well-Known Member

    I thought that was what had happened in the Brexit Referendum!

    Please not that in my previous post I did say "Those who cared enough to vote"!
     
  3. DaveS

    DaveS Well-Known Member

    Would that be the one we had in '75? By your argument that should have been the end of the matter. No need for another one.
     
  4. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    To quote a wise man "democracy is the worst system of government, apart from all the rest".
     
  5. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    As Dave implied: we voted to stay in 1975 so the last referundum is unnecessary and you should sit down and accept it.

    Isn't this democracy stuff a bugger? :p
     
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  6. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    You might associate it with the far left, Geoff. I think most would associate it with totalitarian regimes - of ANY persuasion.
     
  7. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Each year 500 names were chosen from all the citizens of ancient Athens. Those 500 citizens had to actively serve in the government for one year. During that year, they were responsible for making new laws and controlled all parts of the political process. When a new law was proposed, all the citizens of Athens had the opportunity to vote on it. To vote, citizens had to attend the assembly on the day the vote took place. This form of government is called direct democracy.

    In essence, democracy was introduced to stop an oligarchic rule.
    It was to create a level playing field, where wealth and privilege played no part in the system of Government and law making.
     
  8. Pete Bony

    Pete Bony Well-Known Member

    I am referring to the referendum to vote on if the UK should remain a member of the UK. It was put to the public to decide if we should remain members of the EU, the result showed that the majority did not wish to remain members of the EU. If you want to bring the '75 referendum in then on your very same reasoning we should not have needed any general elections since the first general Election in since a government was elected in the first General Election in 1708!
     
  9. gray1720

    gray1720 Well-Known Member

    Speaking as someone who could potentially lose his job, his career and his house to Brexit (luckily I don't have a job that's important to the nation like picking lettuce, I just work to create the next generation of medicines), I really don't give a flying one what the result was, I'm going to fight for my living with tooth and nail.

    Adrian
     
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  10. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    You have a point there.
     
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  11. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Actually, we didn't. In 1975 we voted to join, prior to that we weren't members of the Common Market. As I remember it the French didn't want us.
     
  12. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Perhaps you should edit the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum which says...
     
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  13. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    The free males. Not women, not slaves, not (probably) several other groups. Think Tory party (apart from women these days).

    s
     
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  14. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    "Those Greeks really knew how to keep the untermenschen in their place" A.H. of 25 Railway Cuttings, Berchtesgarten. ;)
     
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  15. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    [pedantry alert] It was No. 23, Andrew. ;) :D
     
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  16. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    are you confusing AAStJH with AH....or is it just me?
     
  17. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    The address was changed to protect the innocent... :p
     
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  18. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Cruise missiles aren't THAT accurate... :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Hear hear!
     
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  20. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I dunno, David - AAStJH was at No.23.

    Whom do you mean by AH... plain Anthony (Tony) Hancock? Alan Hansen? Audrey Hepburn? :D
     

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