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We could treat the EU elections as a referendum.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Learning, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    why can't they throw tomatoes at him...… still in the tin of course
     
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  2. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I completely agree, Nige. It's utterly unnacceptable when prominent defenders of democracy are subjected to such appalling treatment. Fortunately, that f***ing little s*** isn't one of those, so we can all have a good laugh. ;)
     
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  3. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    We need to bear in mind that, unlike almost all other international borders, the Irish border cuts through farms, factories, and buildings in general. There are places where, for example, the kitchen is in the Republic and the dining room in the north etc. I would also suspect that all but the most diehard DUP voter has nowadays absolutely no problem about delivering their milk, for example, to a dairy in the Republic and vice versa. And of course, the GFA is an internationally recognised and accepted treaty and any attempt to tamper with it will bring down the wrath of the USA on any british government that tries it.

    Lynn
     
  4. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    If only this had been the photo

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  5. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    Looks like he is being arrested..... a foreshadowing of things to come.?

    Graeme...
     
  6. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    The empty carton was left on the street. The thrower of the carton should be charged as a litter lout. Ripe tomatoes and very over-ripe eggs are traditional pretty harmless missiles of political protest and in the evening then the local rats will deal with the mess. As far as I know rats will lick a carton clean but not eat the carton. I cannot think of any politician, even one that I support, who would not bejustly humbled by an egging. It is just part of the course.
     
  7. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    The really interesting thing was report last night on the march of the far right all over Europe. There is a very real possibility the next EP will have a sizeable body of eurosceptics bent on reforming it and limiting powers. If that happens, I wonder if Farage will become a staunch remainer? We might leave just as EU changes all the things we're leaving for. Whatever they might be, of course.

    But this is not a parochial issue about austerity, the North vs South, Etonians, immigration, etc, it is a cyclical tidal shift. See my post on that, it is real.
     
  8. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

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  9. miked

    miked Well-Known Member

    Probably not, as I can't remember neo-Nazis and neo-Fascists ever being keen on ensuring true democracy and the rights of citizens. The likelihood of changing the grossly undemocratic structure of the EU - with its undemocratic Commissioners and its grievously excessive pay and allowances for MEP's will continue until and unless there is an outbreak of real democratic change.
     
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  10. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Undemocratic? No, it doesn't appear any more undemocratic than any other government. The Commission proposes, but the Council and Parliament must approve any proposals. The Commission is therefore not really much different from the higher echelons of the UK Civil Service.

    https://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/the-european-union-the-institutional-system-explained/

    S

    ps the EU is a damn sight more democratic than anything the Leavers would like to put in its place.
     
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  11. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    I don't know how many options you've got to choose from but I have one vote and there are 41 parties and political groups on the form. Eeny-meeny-mo.................

    Lynn
     
  12. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    The only true democracy is where the citizens take the time to decide on proposed laws and actions. If you tell the majority often enough that they're not fit to do this they will believe you and you can get yourself elected to a "representative" body (which is of course nothing of the kind).
     
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  13. Gezza

    Gezza Well-Known Member

    Didn’t we try a bit of democracy a couple of years ago?
     
  14. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Yes and disagree as I did with the decision it was at least democracy in action.
     
  15. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Nt that is in evidence much now, having listened to some of TM's speech today.
     
  16. DaveS

    DaveS Well-Known Member

    Yes, and having tried it once vowed never again :(:mad:.
     
  17. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    There we go. So who do you want to appoint as dictator for life?
     
  18. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Me. I promise to leave you all alone. ;)
     
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  19. miked

    miked Well-Known Member

    Oooh, now let's see: doesn't, "Generalissimo Farage" have some kind of mental authoritative ring to it?:eek:
     
  20. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Yes. We really, really do believe you.... :eek:
     

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