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Walking Boots

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by daft_biker, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. taxor

    taxor Well-Known Member

    I've found my Scarpas to be pretty damn good on most terrains. Where they (and other Vibram sole boots) come undone is on greasy rock.
     
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  2. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Very true. But what IS good for greasy rock? Serious question: it's something of which I have mercifully little experience.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  3. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    Scarpas are comfortable to wear but on a wet slope you are going to slip. Better with deeper sharper defined cleats on the heel... I am preffering Salomons but Salewas are getting a very good name and I might give them a try.

    Graeme
     
  4. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Graeme,

    Mmmmm... Possibly. May depend on how you walk.

    (Also, I spent [too] many hours walking on Dartmoor in 1950s/1950s army boots).

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  5. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    Studded felt soles, but it's no good on any other terrain. Works a treat on my wading boots for fishing.
     
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  6. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    I hear what you are saying I think......the tread on the heel of my boots looks like it is designed to last on hard ground rather than bite soft ground as the grooves run with the most likely direction of a slip but maximise the amount of rubber to wear down.

    TBH I haven't had an issue with it and the treads would probably take me another 15 years to wear down.

    I've only ever been up one hill in those boots......and not even a big one! These days I don't really do any tarmac miles in them as I've got a bit lazy in my old age and driving is easier:oops: It's pretty much all woodland and peat bog walks I'll be using them for so I'll have a look at those brands too.
     
  7. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Struck up a conversation with a bloke at a cafe above Kitzbuhel a few years ago and he reckoned that nothing beat crampons. He claimed to carry them everywhere and fished his out of his backpack to show me. I asked why they were stamped "Österreichisches Bundesheer". His reply was "Ich habe vergessen, sie zurück zu geben". ;)
     
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  8. taxor

    taxor Well-Known Member

    I'm buggered if I know, Roger. The best aid to keeping upright on the fells is to watch where you put your feet which, when you're tired with wobbly legs, is admittedly easier said than done. No pair of boots is going to give you good grip on all surfaces and be hard-wearing.
     
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  9. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Aye, I'm not sure I'd fancy cleats on gabbro and it seems to cause heavy wear on rubber. I still like going up hills but it's beyond me why anyone would want to walk back down as it makes my knees and feet hurt....I find it is painfully slow. It's quite possible that good knees and not wishing you had a bike with you helps though.:)
     
  10. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Sounds like arthritis.

    S
     
  11. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!


    Could be. I had Osgood Schlatter disease in my teens which enouraged me to give up running but that level of pain went away long ago.

    I don't mind a couple of hundred feet up and down and distance is no real issue. It's not something I've noticed getting worse with age yet.
     
  12. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Went to the medic with sore knees - "does it hurt more going up or going down?" "Up, er no downhill." "Yep, arthritis."

    Had the same problem as you in my very early twenties as well.

    Bloody knees. Lousy design. About time the Intelligent Creator went for another IQ test.

    S

    ps try a knee brace. Works well for me, seems to ease any sideways play. Mine's a fairly cheap one, getting to the point of needing renewing in the near future, but still doing fine. Bit of a nuisance, but you get used to them.
    http://www.physioroom.com/catalog/Arthritis_Knee_Braces/3109.html
     
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  13. AndyTake2

    AndyTake2 Well-Known Member

    Going downhill puts 4 times your bodyweight through your knees. The wrong part of the joint is taking the stress, so it is possible to cause arthritic changes in one part of the knee and not another.

    As for the design of the knees, well as a sports therapist I bought a book a couple of decades back.
    Bugger, is it complicated. The damn thing rotates, glides, flexes and just about dances a jig every time we move.

    No wonder the surgeon who recently replaced my patellar-femoral joint specialised in just that joint. It must be a nightmare to understand everything.
    Needless to say, I didn't pursue the book in great detail, my brain would have flowed gently out of my ears....:confused:
     
  14. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Think you can do better?
     
  15. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I'm sure any engineer could. The thing about evolution is that it's all accidental and if it doesn't stop you breeding it's got a good chance of staying in the gene pool.
     
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  16. taxor

    taxor Well-Known Member

    Even when I was a young bloke, the descent was the worst (or least best) aspect of fellwalking. Mind and limbs are tired and it's no coincidence that most accidents happen in descent rather than the other way round. One way to minimise the amount of shock on your leg joints is to use a pair of walking poles,They make a big difference especially if your old knees are a bit ricketty. Taking your time and not opting for the shortcut often helps as well. As Wainwright said - time is there to be spent, not saved.
     
  17. ascu75

    ascu75 Well-Known Member

    A problem I won't ever suffer again :( 15 years is great for them. Just think if you had waxed and polished them;) they hardly owe you anything do they goes to show you good kit lasts.
    Don
     
  18. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    I was taught, when going down slopes, to always put my heels down first and try to lean back a bit and, most importantly, take it easy. Observations over the years in hiking areas from the Peak District to Lappland to Skye and the local area here suggests that a lot of people have never learnt this.
    Apart from that I've found that one telescopic staff suffices as I like to have one hand free.

    Lynn
     
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  19. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Geoff,

    Not personally, but if I were omniscient and omnipotent then surely I couldn't make as big a mess. The same is true of teeth and the reproductive system.

    Blind evolution is a much more convincing explanation.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  20. SqueamishOssifrage

    SqueamishOssifrage Well-Known Member

    Hmmm... This 'omniscient and omnipotent' claim appears to made by a lot monotheists in support of their chosen deity. However, a brief consideration will substantiate that it is logically impossible to combine both attributes.

    As for the reproductive methodology, I always thought he did pretty well there. :D
     

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