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TV, Cinema & Magnum

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by SXH, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Tonight, 22:00 on BBC4 - "Cinema Through the Eye of Magnum".

    More details here.

    Sorry for the short notice.

    ETA: and a longish article here.
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  2. proseak

    proseak Well-Known Member

    Thanks for this!
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  3. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Is that Magnum .357 or Magnum .44? I have only the latter and unfortunately it's in California.

    Seriously, thanks.


  4. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Neither. They're talking about ice lollies.
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  5. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    More yer actual choc ice on a stick
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  6. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    It being BBC4, probably .22 Magnum - yep, it does exist. :eek:

    Mind you, Hollywood is in California too...
  7. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    iPlayer it is for me then - thanks for the pointer!
  8. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    I found it quite interesting. And an interesting demonstration of it's not what you know, it's who you know.
  9. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    I missed the first 10 minutes of this - got lumbered taking someone in my car - Considering Magnum's involvement in cinema, I'm surprised (presumably Magnum) hadn't agreed or organized something like this some years ago when some of these people were still alive. The back story (if that's the right term) presented in this, with Magnum's photographers recalling their experiences, makes this all the more interesting.

    By the way, the concept of the Magnum chocolate ice cream using a stick was reputedly proposed by of all people, the actor Roger Moore ....
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  10. AlanW

    AlanW Well-Known Member

    Go to parties, talk to people, put yourself out there .... it's all about networking!
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  11. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    Being a semi-introvert who just doesn't 'get' why people engage in small talk .... Ughhh!
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  12. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Alan,

    Exactly. If no-one ever sees your work, how is anyone going to know about it?

    Of course "who you know" is important, and especially in England too much of it is "who you were at school and/or university with" (or of course "with whom you were at school and/or university"). In photography, though, a very great deal depends on meeting fellow photographers everywhere -- fellow photographers, that is, who make an effort to meet one another. This is why I urge anyone who can possibly afford it to go to the Rencontres at Arles at least once (and preferably every year). At a rough guess, close to a quarter of the photographers whose work appears in Final Analysis -- a page dedicated to good photography, and superb exposure -- are people I met at Arles. "Who they know" is just me; and what we have in common is that we go to as many exhibitions and vernissages (first nights) as we possibly can, to see the pictures and meet fellow enthusiasts. We sure as Hell weren't at school or university together.

    At that, I don't like the word "networking". I like meeting agreeable people who are also good photographers whose work I can promote. "Networking" as an end in itself is too instrumental, trying to use people. Of course you can say that I use their pictures and that they use me to get their pictures promoted. But it doesn't really work like that. The spark of connexion, the incipient friendship, comes first. I've "met" others through personal recommendations, social media, and "cold" invitations to vernissages (which I can almost never afford to attend -- even a month's columns would barely pay for a trip to another city and a night in an hotel).

    We all need each other. That's what photography is about. Yes, it's easier to be a hermit. But then, lots of things are easy.


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  13. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Try large talk. Easier after a few drinks...


  14. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I agree about 'Networking', Roger - and it's a valid distinction that you draw between the meeting of agreeable and like-minded people, and the more-exploitative sounding 'Networking' so commonly bandied around in tedious business circles.
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  15. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    Bringing the discussion back to BBC4, Last night there was 'Letters from Bagdad' about Gertrude Bell, who was looked upon with some disdain by men than she certainly should have been, followed by 'The legacy of Lawrence (This is part 1 - Part 2 is tomorrow at 23.00) and how he 'managed' the Arabs during WW1. His book 'Seven pillars of wisdom' is apparently supposed to be required reading by the US forces, but it seems they just don't 'get' how TEL operated.
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  16. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    My 2nd. copy, in paperback, is by my computer desk - I've mislaid my copy of what I think might have been the original edition, but I'm sure it will turn up. I really must start reading it, instead of luxuriating in David Lean's film. I found Rory Stewart's film illuminating, and am looking forward to part 2.
  17. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    You're darn right there, about 'Luxuriating' in the film! I also have a copy of Robert Graves 'Lawrence and the Arabs' and 'The Mint' under the name of A/C Ross. Apparently, In 1934 Lawrence discovered that the producer Alexander Korda was proposing to make a film about his exploits but then changed his mind on this following pressure from Lawrence. I often wonder what TEL's original draft of his book contained - which he mislaid on Reading railway station.
  18. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    And next Monday (the 25th), again on BBC4, at the earlier time of 19:30, Through the Lens of Larkin.

    Apparently on tonight as well - but only in Yorkshire! o_O

    I quite like his poetry - lets see how I get on with his pictures!
  19. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Well, it was quite interesting, if a little short and concentrated mainly on how his photography fed into his poetry.

    I could have done without the person reading the poetry excerpts. Or at least they could have got someone who could read them in a less stilted manner!

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