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Time for a new (S/H) car

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by DaveS, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Agreed and the best way to achieve that is to have a massive increase in the car club schemes. Cheap government loans that enabled their expansion could take a few million cars off the road in the next ten years. The secret is to make them big enough to encourage a massive drop in personal ownership but that won't please the manufacturers nor their retailers. :(
     
  2. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Pete,

    Okay for city dwellers. But we don't all live in cities, and the idea of closing down villages is a bit radical.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  3. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Agreed. But if we got large numbers of city cars off the streets perhaps our country roads would be less congested?
     
  4. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    What we need is a reliable and convenient way to get more people to the places they want to go in fewer movements. Sounds simple, but really isn't!
     
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  5. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Andrew,

    They really aren't very congested where I live. Between here an Loudun (the nearest small city) I counted the cars last time: five in 16 kilometres (10 miles) on the open road. It's a bit more crowded between here and Thouars, about 20 km, but the main hold-ups tend to be tractors. Well, that and the one set of traffic lights in the next village, where traffic is one way.

    Why do we need (a) quite so many big cities and (b) quite so many people in them? Bring back villages, cf. The New Gold Standard and indeed Cities and Villages. (Both on my .eu site.)

    Cheers,

    R.
     
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  6. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    I'm not suggesting that they are designed to fail after 3 years just that they know where their priorities are. Things break and are not always important enough to fix out of warranty (my cup holder for example).

    The first owner shouldn't care about the next owner either as keeping them mint doesn't pay off when renting them....the penalties for above average mileage and/or below average condition might be steep but you shouldn't expect much of a reward from the dealer for low miles and mint. Think it was about £500 quid off the next car one of my customers got for a 3 year old Juke with 6000 miles on it when autotrader suggested it would cost about £2000 more to buy.
     
  7. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    People just need to move around less.
     
  8. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Or more (as opposed to sat in a vehicle for cumulative hours)?
     
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  9. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    That is the conundrum isn't it? You might have predicted that as people became part of more and wider virtual communities, shopped online, worked from home etc, their need to physically travel would diminish. I know there was a steep decrease in car usage in early years of higher oil prices, but those slimy, profiteering, car manufacturers keep creating more fuel efficient cars to sucker us back onto the road again.

    Maybe the answer is to ban all engines under 2 litre and all cars that do more than 25mpg?
     
  10. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    You'd have us all driving around in these:

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    Visually at least it'd be more interesting.
     
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  11. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    That is one cool car. Not sure I'd fancy going over speedhumps in it though.
     
  12. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Not if we ALL drove around in those... ;)
     
  13. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    What sort of idiot drives around with the top up on a day like that?

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  14. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I'll bite: what the hell is it????
     
  15. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Delahaye
     
  16. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Ta. From Wikipedia it looks like it's a Delahaye 175S Roadster (1949) with coachwork by Saoutchik?
     
  17. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Perfect. Needs a 6 litre engine and everyone would leave it on the drive and rarely go out in it.
     
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  18. Dorset_Mike

    Dorset_Mike Grumpy Old Fart

    or, "Needs good home near petrol pump"
     
  19. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    Traffic would move more freely if we didn't keep building houses, schools, hospitals etc. with access directly off trunk roads, as opposed to access roads. We might also review the designs of some roads where there are two, or three, lanes merged into just one within a few hundred yards. Who in their right mind thinks that trying to get three lanes into one won't cause congestion?
     
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  20. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    As they found dumping M4, M3, A3 directly into the M25 with no lane increases. But which they already knew from studies into the Cologne A3 ring road problems.
     

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