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The fruit of hatred, intolerance, and lies

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by John Farrell, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

  2. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Terrible. The right wing is getting stronger all over the world and this is their way.
     
  3. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

  4. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    The right wing are responsible for more terror attacks than any other group, so sadly it isn't, and won't be, an isolated incident. :(
     
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  5. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    I agree, Zou. I must admit that I wrote that more in hope, than expectation.:(
     
  6. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    That depends on your definition of "right wing". If you are including the fundamentalist moslems in that group then you are quite correct but not if you restrict the description to "white fascists".

    Some numbers to be going on with...

     
  7. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    I was. They are extreme right.
     
  8. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Functionally identical, and ideologically parallel. Pretty much inseparable.
     
  9. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    I am sure the numbers are illuminating but statista requires a subscription, which I neither have nor want so I have nod idea whether they are, or not.
     
  10. Mark101

    Mark101 Well-Known Member

    We really do need to make a big moral stand against these right wing views. At the moment the words sleepwalking and nineteen thirties keep entering my mind
     
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  11. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    "Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing". [John Stuart Mills, University of St. Andrews 1867]
     
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  12. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    This the country not allowing British grandparents (my friends) to join their son and family to end their days with their only family who have settled there.

    Ironic.

    What has happened is tragic and should never be condoned. I'm certainly not, but perhaps New Zealand should review their immigration policy with a kinder heart.
     
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  13. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    In my opinion, 'Right-wingers' will select whatever they think will get those who are not, to start thinking that Democracy just doesn't work. They'll target religious groups, stir up Racial hatred wherever they can and the fears of those who feel that migrants are impacting on their lives and jobs. They'd probably much prefer countries to be run by Dictators, or to a lesser degree, Communism which is for all intents and purposes the same thing except run by a committee (which they might not be able to impact upon as much as they would like to) instead of an individual.
     
  14. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    Kindness went out the door when neoliberalism arrived - there's no money in it.
     
  15. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    It's such a shame. They are kind, hard working intelligent people who have held good jobs in the past and still do enormous charity work. Yet they are not welcome to come over to their son, his wife and two children. It's so sad.
     
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  16. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    This website explains the rules: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new...y/explore-visa-options-for-living-permanently and has a simple selector tree to work out what rules apply. In the case of those wishing to retire to New Zealand they have to show an annual income of NZ$60,000 plus capital of NZ$1,000,000 to invest in the country (divide by 2 to convert to £s). That seems not unreasonable when you consider the costs of healthcare that older immigrants are likely to incur.
     
  17. peterba

    peterba Well-Known Member

    How true that is, John.
     
  18. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Ah, so people are just commodities. Only the young, fit and wealthy need apply. I see.
     
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  19. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    Saw a great description...

    Fascism: killing 49 people in a mosque with a rifle
    Liberalism: killing 49 people in a mosque with a drone bomb
     
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  20. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Conservative democracy: looking the other way.
     
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