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Take part in round 3 of APOY 2014 - World in Motion

Discussion in 'Amateur Photographer Of the Year (APOY)' started by Chrissie_Lay, May 7, 2014.

  1. Chrissie_Lay

    Chrissie_Lay AP Editor's PA

  2. PMurrell

    PMurrell Well-Known Member

    I submitted my entry on 29th April the day AP put it on the website. I received notification of receipt - I hope wasn't too early that it may not be considered??
     
  3. andytraill

    andytraill Well-Known Member

    Stuck in my first ever entry. Not sure whether it'll work out ok. Hope so will be interesting to find out what the judges think anyway.
     
  4. AdrianSadlier

    AdrianSadlier Well-Known Member

    Still not sure what to submit! Am heading to France next week for a short cycling trip - might get something there - or something from the Giro last week - or something entirely different.

    I'm still not sure ....

    Decisions, decisions....
     
  5. PMurrell

    PMurrell Well-Known Member

    Don't worry - you will find 'that shot'. My entry was taken at the recent London Marathon (I went to cheer on a couple of work mates). I thought I would get a panning snap of Mo Farah for my entry but ended up with something so different and unexpected that I felt content enough to submit it at the early stages of the opening of the round.
     
  6. supercavie

    supercavie Member

    Hello Everybody,

    I can't understand how can the exact same picture in the APOY 2013 - Round 2 Life in Motion be used and selected on this year APOY 2014 - Round 3 - World in Motion

    Last year on "APOY 2013 - Round 2 Life in Motion" Gary Cox earned 25pts with this image and got selected on the top 30:
    http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...hergary-cox-2c-gloucestershire-25pts&cat=1137

    This year on "APOY 2014 - Round 3 - World in Motion" Gary Cox earned 35pts with the exact same image and also got selected on the top 30:
    http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...hergary-cox-2c-gloucestershire-35pts&cat=1405

    Please help me understand how can this be possible?? This image shouldn't even be considered.

    These are the rules of the APOY contest:

    <<...5. Photos must not previously have been published in a national UK photography magazine...>>

    If in last year an image was chosen on the top 30 and was in fact published in a national UK photography magazine (you probably know as named "Amateur Photographer"), this image cannot be chosen by the rules for this contest...
     
  7. Oliver_Atwell

    Oliver_Atwell AP Features writer Forum Admin

    Yes you are absolutely correct on this. This was a massive oversight on our part. We receive nearly a thousand entries for each round and unfortunately with so many entries coming in (particularly lots of shots of kingfishers) mistakes like this can occur. We'll rectify this and ensure the points are amended right away.
     
  8. PMurrell

    PMurrell Well-Known Member

    As mentioned in my previous above comment the following link is to my image that was submitted in last month's theme https://www.flickr.com/photos/74286790@N04/14495193002/in/pool-2559533@N25

    I'm a big boy and open to all forms of criticisms, critiques, appraisals or even, "that's utter trash!":)

    Seriously - your feedback would be welcome.
     
  9. luisport

    luisport Well-Known Member

    I do like the dynamism and sense of speed conveyed on the shot. I would have preferred this over some "clichés" or far too blurred chosen images that hardly allow you to distinguish the subject.
    This was my failed entry https://www.flickr.com/photos/luisportelles/14067261228/
     
  10. PMurrell

    PMurrell Well-Known Member

    You can pick up the atmosphere of tension and the eagerness of the photographers motion(s) positioning themselves for the perfect shot in your photo.

    Thank you for comment regarding mine. Though admittedly I was initially disappointed that it had not made the top 30 when I picked up a copy of AP this morning and subsequently what later followed on site, I think the competition has grown to such a proportion (which is a good thing) that they are now dealing with an unprecedented amount of global entrants per month.
     
  11. supercavie

    supercavie Member

    I only refered those entries, because they were exactly the same image send from the same person and they broke the rules.

    I believe having almost the same image but not entirely, like these two entries below is acceptable, because even very similar they are two different images of the same subject:

    APOY 2012 » Round 1 - Water in the Landscape:
    http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...er-stationnick-worley-2c-london-35pts&cat=822

    APOY 2013 » Round 7 - Black & White World:
    http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...ectionsandrew-howe-2c-cheshire-34pts&cat=1157
     
  12. luisport

    luisport Well-Known Member

    It has also happened with cousin shots from the same photographer.

    APOY 2012 Round 6 http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...povic-2c-bosnia-and-herzegovina-42pts&cat=944

    APOY 2013 Round 4 http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...ovic-2c-bosnia-and-herzegovina-32pts&cat=1154
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2014
  13. PMurrell

    PMurrell Well-Known Member

    Though I like to give the benefit of the doubt, due to not fully knowing the selection process behind the scenes - today I cannot help but feel rather disheartened by it all.
     
  14. luisport

    luisport Well-Known Member

    Agreed. However, I would add to this. Although AP is not obliged to provide explanations over our concerns, it would be very healthy that some authorized voice from within took a step forward and pay attention to our comments. Well, if you care a tiny bit about us.
     
  15. avt

    avt Well-Known Member

    It's a great image. I've seen it a bit earlier on your page on 500px and thought it will be on the top. I don't understand judging and mistakes with repeating pictures are extremely nonprofessional.
     
  16. PMurrell

    PMurrell Well-Known Member

    Thanks AVT. At times I was beginning to doubt my own ability though not expecting to be shortlisted at every comp I enter but just felt rather dissmayed.

    I'll get over it and cheers.

    Peter
     
  17. avt

    avt Well-Known Member

    After your words last time, I looked around in a different way and everything became much better). Thanks.

    Tatiana.
     
  18. andytraill

    andytraill Well-Known Member

    If there are 1000 entries per round, even though last year (for a similar but not the same round) one got shortlisted, verification against other rounds must be heading towards impossible? Check each photographer for another entry? Perhaps more do-able but for the top 50 against all the rounds they have ever entered (or indeed check every photograph ever featured in a magazine)?

    Statistically a nightmare. The organisers must have to rely (to an extent) on entrants sticking to the rules. Though maybe in the case of winners perhaps a greater level of scrutiny. I wouldn't fancy rating 1000 images a month anyways!
     
  19. luisport

    luisport Well-Known Member

    Not quite so. Let's analyze two different scenarios.

    1) Judges are every year the same.
    I think they should retain in mind most of the images they shortlisted, no matter there are 10 rounds.

    2) Judges change every year.
    Aren't they supposed to be familiar with entries that have formerly been shortlisted - being this part of the qualifying rules?
     
  20. lm1

    lm1 Well-Known Member

    Blimey, I'm so excited I've finally made it into the top 30 (27)!!!
    Absolutely thrilled, though due to the judging error, I keep double checking I'm still there, in case its another mistake!
    :D
     

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