Discussion in 'Talking Pictures' started by Roger Hicks, Jun 24, 2014.
That's interesting, my wife has said the same about me...
Sorry: I dd not mean it as a personal attack. All I was trying to point out is that (1) flickr is a bit one-dimensional and (2) "broadcasting" (as distinct from "narrowcasting" to people who might be interested) is a touch on the solipsistic side.
Would I like you if I met you? Quite probably. What opinion could I form from flickr? Not a lot.
"Anyone who wants to". Rather a vague answer if I may say so.
I consider myself a " right minded person", although I have no psychiatric evidence to back this up, which begs another question. Who audits the auditor?
I may have a very different idea of what constitutes a good image to your good self. I personally don't mind the internet being awash with images. I don't have to look at them. It's similar to someone moaning about what's on telly. There's always the off switch.
I'm interested in whether you put your question out there for discussion, or whether it really does annoy you?
I guess my point is, in the big scheme of things, it matters not.
No apology necessary - I did in no way consider it an attack. I just tend to over focus on trying to explain what I mean, usually badly.
Not really any more vague than your question. I raised the point -- as I often do -- to try to encourage people to try to think about what they like, what they do and why they do it.
The argument that "in the big scheme of things, it matters not" is pretty vague too. We'll all be dead in a hundred years, so very little of what we do today matters "in the big scheme of things".
Coming back into this thread because I had to post some photographs to Flickr last night.
At the weekend I took part in the brilliant London Photo24 event where we spent 24 hours having fun socialising and photographing London.
Associated with the event are 9 competitions for participants and the only way to enter is to post one's entries on the 9 separate Flickr pages. What I discovered is that (as far as I can tell) to do that, I first have to post them onto a Flickr "photostream" of my own.
However, in doing so, I hope that I am not accused of adding to "noise" on the internet. The photos are only intended for the competition judges and, perhaps, other event participants. I don't doubt, however, that they are visible to the hundreds of millions of other users should they be daft enough to go trawling for them.
No need to worry!
As you load them, make them Private - then post them to the relevant Group. They will be visible to the Group but no-one else. Unless the recent changes have scuppered that too!
Anyway, I pick and choose what I look at online and never feel I am bombarded by the unwanted.
Not sure if I can do that, Kate. The Groups themselves are not private as far as I can tell. Here is one of the nine:
Naw! Add to the noise...
"Sing it out, sing it clear, I take photos and I'm here!"
Look at this, look at that - some are good, some are tat...
I remember my own introduction to Flickr. It was a BBC competition on Britain in 2007. We had to post our pictures to the Group and some were selected for a rolling view on TV. It took me quite a while to get into the swing of Flickr after that, but I did and enjoyed some Groups very much. They made me what I am today and I don't regret it at all. I learnt a lot, enjoyed many challenging Emulation Projects and discussions with others of like mind.
I say don't knock it till you try it.
Blame it on the tedious nerds, (I build my own custom PC's so I probably am one!) hell they are the ones that built the damn WWW and allowed billions of terrible photos to clog it up, that and all the pron of course
I really don't see why the solution isn't glaringly obvious to anyone with even half a brain.
Choose where you want to browse images. No-one forces you to go into Flickr, or any of the other photo sites.
Tsk, tsk, you spoilsport! Next you'll be saying that people should be allowed to make up their own minds.
Haha! Heaven forfend! Not allowed.
And the answer to that is equally clear to anyone with the other half of the same brain: that the reason why many people don't look at Flickr is because it's overloaded with rubbish. If the people posting were more selective -- as they are, for example, on this forum -- they'd probably get more people looking at their pictures. "Looking at", not "glancing at and scrolling on."
I think both Kate and Roger have valid points-of-view.
However, I really do not see much point to browsing sites such as Flickr unless looking for a particular image or type of image.
More generally, whether there were 100,000,000 poor quality images or 10,000 better quality images, I would really have no interest in the sensory overload involved in browsing them. Even 1,000 would be far too many.
On Sunday I will be going to the RPS Photo Forum at Larkhall. There I will see, perhaps, 80 - 100 prints that amateur photographers have taken along to seek advice from the "experts". I will find many of those prints interesting, stimulating or even inspiring in their own right. I will also gain hugely from hearing the critiques from a few advanced photographers who I know well and whose opinions I value and respect. (On this occasion I won't be taking along any of my own prints - but sometimes I do.)
To me that will be 5 hours much better spent than spending time wading through any unedited and unselected online collection of Flickr (or Facebook or Instagram or magazine gallery) images on my computer.
But, as I often say on here - horses for courses, strokes for folks and any number of similar clichés.
You've obviously never had to source images then or for that matter wish to have your images found by those sourcing images.
Your Contradour site seems to have gone down. I keep getting a "Server Not Found" error.
Yes, I let the domain name lapse a year or so ago. Real life got in the way of photography. I really must get round to updating my signature at some point.
Bearing in mind that this is a Forum for readers of "Amateur Photography", I suspect that Kate's viewpoint will be the prevalent one.
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