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Poll - If you use a digital camera, do you use the in-camera black & white mode?

Discussion in 'Weekly Poll' started by Chrissie_Lay, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. Chrissie_Lay

    Chrissie_Lay AP Editor's PA

    Vote on this week's poll - If you use a digital camera, do you use the in-camera black & white mode?

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  2. RogerMac

    RogerMac Well-Known Member

    I have always taken my images in colour and converted later (if appropriate) however my daughter puts the camera into B&W mode so she can review on the screen immediately and as I am very impressed with her images I will probably change myself.
     
  3. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

    Use mainly raw+jpeg so can easily have colour or mono but by far the majority of my stuff is close-ups or macros and they don't really work in mono.
     
  4. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    I never use jpeg so it comes down to post-processing.

    For a short while I used monochrome settings for post capture review to see if it changed my assessment of a composition but I tend not to "chimp" on the spot. If I review on camera it will be while having a coffee somewhere. Therefore it was largely pointless and I reverted to using colour.

    When I started using a digital camera I envisaged doing 90% mono and 10% colour and bought a printer suited to mono work. In practice it has proved 0.1% and 99.9% as the colour is so good.
     
  5. GeoffR

    GeoffR Well-Known Member

    I don't use the in-camera Black and White because I shoot in raw but I suppose it might be worth a try with a spare body.
     
  6. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    I have done using it as a guide mode and maybe I should more often - if only as training in seeing mono potential....

    I probably could drop my IR camera into mono permanently as the custom WB means the 'colour' image is almost mono anyway...
     
  7. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    No, that's what film is for.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  8. RobertCoombes

    RobertCoombes Well-Known Member

    when I want mono I set the camera to raw mono to compose in live view. I can always change my mind in post processing and switch back to colour but I don't.
     
  9. Dorset_Mike

    Dorset_Mike Grumpy Old Fart

    My eyes see colour, therefore I shoot in colour, never mono
     
  10. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Certaintly not. I shoot raw and decide development later.

    Why lose the capability of using various experiments in filtering?

    That's what film can be for. Cock it up in camera on film, and that's it. Cock it up in raw, up to a point, but with retrospective colour filtering you may recover the shot, or even be experimental. And better still one can experiment and learn at leisure. Of course one can just bung on a red filter, use film, and landscapes can have all the drama of the 1950's. (and there isn't anything wrong with 1950's monochrome landscapes) well not much.
     
  11. retrofit

    retrofit Well-Known Member

    Why not?

    If a digital camera offers it up, then I don't see why I wouldn't use it.
     
  12. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    There are no advantages at all in using the in camera black and white converter.
    All options remain open when you shoot raw.
     
  13. Fishboy

    Fishboy Well-Known Member

    I always shoot in RAW when using a digital camera with that ability.

    When I'm composing my pictures I generally know which ones will end up as colour and which will be back and white.
     
  14. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    You need to be fairly impressively incompetent to "cock up" a B+W film image to the point where it's unusable. Gross underexposure is about the only possibility.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  15. Fishboy

    Fishboy Well-Known Member

    Ah yes...I remember it well. As a youth I sometimes used to mistakenly think that I could take photographs in near darkness, expecting the science fiction-like super-speed of HP5 to capture every exquisite detail.

    I recall unspooling newly-developed rolls of film, fresh from the developing tank, and seeing almost absolutely clear frames with perhaps just the odd pinpoint of black from a light source or two...

    The foolishness of youth!

    Cheers, Jeff
     
  16. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    In the Days much earlier than that (Late 40's) there was a short craze of developing to infinity. Which increased sensitivity but 4.5 stops
    But obviously increase the gamma and grain and base fog in proportion.
    Asa 100 became about 1000.......( kodak super xx, in D76)
    It only worked with non solvent developers and entailed extended development of at least an hour.
    Some examples from my school days.
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  17. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    To the best of my recollection (i.e. I'm too lazy to check) the original DIN standard was based on development to gamma infinity, and William Mortensen used something very similar.

    The current ISO gamma is quite high (approximately 0.62) and twenty years ago the Japanese members of the ISO standards committee were constantly lobbying to have it dropped to more like 0,56.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  18. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

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    Love this pic!

    Cheers,

    R.
     
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  19. Fishboy

    Fishboy Well-Known Member

    I love the pictures too - they have real sense of time and place about them if you take my meaning.

    Cheers, Jeff
     
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  20. mediaman

    mediaman Well-Known Member

    I shoot RAW.... if the subject suits the B/W treatment, then I convert afterwards.
     

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