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People are bad at spotting manipulation

Discussion in 'Digital Image Editing & Printing' started by beatnik69, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. beatnik69

    beatnik69 Well-Known Member

  2. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    80%.
     
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  3. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    I scored 70% but it quite tricky. Interesting though.
     
  4. Craig20264

    Craig20264 Well-Known Member

    Managed 50%
     
  5. Craig20264

    Craig20264 Well-Known Member

    Show Off! o_O
     
  6. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    You have to start from the assumption that every image you've ever seen has been manipulated.

    I wonder if we all see the same image set? I'd hope it was different every time?
     
  7. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    From memory I saw a woman on a bridge near some boats, (actually quite a lot of the involved boats), a bloke sitting with a couple of pints near some boats, a bloke standing in a flowerbed, a woman standing in front of a brick wall with some bins behind her, a man standing near some trees with a bin nearby, a man in his garden with a cat nearby...can't remember the rest.
     
  8. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    60%

    Mind you, one I was 100% confident on, because I'd seen both the before and after pictures already! :rolleyes:
     
  9. saxacat

    saxacat Well-Known Member

    70%. Interesting study.
     
  10. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    Sounds very similar - that cat was totally 'shopped.
     
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  11. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Interesting. To my surprise I got 8/10 too but with very low confidence. Sounds like the same set of pictures are being presented so unfair on the study to try to describe them. My main problem was that I couldn't conceive that anyone would spend any time taking let alone retouching those! I'd have liked the debrief to show before/after.
     
  12. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    I had low confidence as the shots were such low quality.. .not the sort of thing that we would see on this forum...and not the sort of shots worth working on to any extent. however I only got two wrong, which surprised me. their retoucher was better than their photographer....
     
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  13. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    To be honest all the snaps, that is what they were, did not justify any PP... I meen what would be the point?
     
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  14. Charlotte Moon

    Charlotte Moon Active Member

    I just got 60% Apart from the incredibly fake bird, I couldn't see any editing.
     
  15. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    It's not about that - they're snaps which have been intentionally digitally manipulated for the test - to gather data. How much manipulation can be 'gotten away with' on average. What's the difference between smoothing a face and pasting an entire cat in, or removing a post. They are, I suspect, controlled images modified in specific ways, not just snapshots taken by folk and thrown up.
     
  16. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    "Gotten away with" throws me. Surely a well-manipulated image is superior than a poor image, unless one is claiming it to be an accurate rendering of "reality" such as in a news photo.

    There is nothing to be ashamed of in using skills beyond the mere (or not-so-mere) use of a camera. But, then, that is another subject. Don't you just despise "photographers" who are too bluddy lazy to manipulate their images properly? (rhetorical)
     
  17. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    The same image set as I got, I only scored 5/10.
     
  18. EightBitTony

    EightBitTony Well-Known Member

    Did you read some of the words in the video and test? The video specifically used the word 'forger'. I thought it was obvious the test was about understanding how much an image can be manipulated without people noticing, in the context of news / truth / documentary evidence.

    It's got nothing to do with cosmetic improvements, removing distracting elements, or making an image more pleasing to the eye, it's about, can you tell if we forge images.
     
  19. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    70% though I suspect I may not have correctly identified the actual manipulation in the cases where it has occurred...:rolleyes:

    Whoever did the work is clearly a lot better than me...:D
     
  20. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Just watched the third one in our house do it. There seem to be several variants of each base picture as the two of us who did it before could see differences in what was being presented.
     

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