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New Zealand held its general election yesterday.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by John Farrell, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    I'm happy with the change away from National. The new government will be judged on results. The Greens have done a deal with Labour - confidence and supply, and ministers outside cabinet. National have promised to be a stern opposition - but they have problems. A couple of scandals, rumbling away in the background, and their characterisation as "stale, pale and male".
     
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  2. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

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  3. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    With the negotiations out of the way, stories are emerging about them. It appears the National Party made the mistake of believing their own propaganda. For decades, they've characterised Winston Peters as egotistical, only interested in the "baubles of office". At the negotiations, they offered 5 cabinet posts to his party, but made no important policy concessions. Labour, on the other hand, offered fewer cabinet posts, but was prepared to talk about policies.....Winnie's position, as an interventionist with social democrat leanings, being closer to theirs. Labour won.

    National and their supporters are taking it hard.....their tame journalists and bloggers are whining and whinging.
     
  4. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member


    I'm sure they're right if only because that's the job description for every politician everywhere. :(
     
  5. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    The cabinet positions have been announced, and the coalition agreements released. The new government will be more left inclined, and interventionist, than the previous one.

    Jacinda Ardern will be prime minister, and Winston Peters deputy prime minister, and foreign minister. He was a successful foreign minister in the last Labour led government (2005-2008).
     
  6. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    Just to add insult to injury for the National party - their campaign song for the 2014 election sounded rather like an Eminem song. Eminem thought so too, and sued. National's just been hit with a $NZ600,000 judgement, against them.
     
  7. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    One shouldn't laugh ;)
     
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  8. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    But one does....
     
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  9. John Farrell

    John Farrell Well-Known Member

    Today is the opening of parliament. Tomorrow, the speech from the throne (delivered by the Governor General), and the address in reply debate.

    Last parliamentary term, the National party made a change to the number of MPs who would serve on select committees. Labour is now proposing to put this change into practise, and National is howling "unfair!" It will reduce their influence, as the largest party in parliament, over select committees. Hard luck!
     
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