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New Nikon?

Discussion in 'News - Discussion' started by dyncoed, Nov 8, 2006.

  1. dyncoed

    dyncoed Well-Known Member

    Just been to Mr.Rockwell's site and it seems he has found out Nikon's leaked a new camera again, check it out and see for yourselves.

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40.htm

    Not as exciting as the d80, but none the less a development worthy of being called news.

    Mark
     
  2. mjc7uk

    mjc7uk Well-Known Member

    First question....why? Since that it stay at 6mp....
     
  3. rsand

    rsand Well-Known Member

    Looks like a downgraded d50? I also ask....why?
     
  4. bradalax

    bradalax Well-Known Member

    Does this mean the D50 is going to be discontinued? :D

    if so any idea when that might be? I know my dad is after one, but it won't be for a little while yet!
     
  5. Hotblack

    Hotblack Dead Horse Flogger

    You don't really believe this do you??
     
  6. mjc7uk

    mjc7uk Well-Known Member

    Hmm after re-reading the article, the D40 will only work with 'AF-S' lenses so that would means the older AF-D, AF-G(?) lenses will not work!!

    Can't see Nikon adopt this methods of marketing...
     
  7. dyncoed

    dyncoed Well-Known Member

    Remember guys, nothing is set in stone until the official release, Although saying that, Ken Rockwell was virtually spot on with the D80 specs and the pictures, what he was using to summarise was what had been leaked from Nikon Europe HQ.

    mark
     
  8. Tacitus

    Tacitus Well-Known Member

  9. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    If Nikon have leaked this it may be to boost flagging sales and prices for the D50. A real D50 replacement must have more megapixels. Most of us on this forum know that more pixels are superfluous, but your average public doesn't. Please don't bother to tell me that I am being condescending; I know.
     
  10. AJUK

    AJUK Well-Known Member

    I thought that they might have put an 8MP sensor in the D50 replacement.
     
  11. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    Sony would need to give them permission for that.....

    Graeme
     
  12. huwevans

    huwevans Not Really Here

    Huh? Why? (Not that I think it's a likely possibility, but I'm curious.)
     
  13. ukgooner

    ukgooner Well-Known Member

    I have read on another forum that this is to be a new entry level camera, more basic than the D50, perhaps to encourage people to try a dSLR instead of a Bridge or Point and Shoot model.
     
  14. Hotblack

    Hotblack Dead Horse Flogger

    I didn't think you could get much more 'entry level' than a D50. How can they make things simpler for a DSLR?
     
  15. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    Well I would imagine that if Sonys lawyers have any business sense, they will have drafted fairly tight contracts which have an influence on how Nikon use their chips? Assuming that Nikon are still beholding to Sony for their sensors of course. As stated above there would be a clear (misguided) perception that automatically an 8mp (or higher) camera would be better than a 6mp camera and therefore it would have a market advantage. In a competitive situation I cant see that Sony would want to give Nikon a market advantage.

    Graeme
     
  16. huwevans

    huwevans Not Really Here

    That seems like a strange assumption to me - Sony are the supplier, Nikon are the customer. The customer dictates the terms. The supplier either accepts them, or the customer takes their business elsewhere. There are plenty of chip fabs in the world which would be quite happy to to have a decent order from a major camera maker for large photographic quality CCDs.
     
  17. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    You dont think their relationship will change?
    I always thought that Nikon were using chips that other companies had developed and manufactured, have they been developing them and simply paying Sony to build them?

    Graeme
     
  18. huwevans

    huwevans Not Really Here

    Basically, yes. Nikon aren't exactly novices in the CCD/CMOS game - they are the world's biggest manufacturers of the machines used to make such devices, so they know their way around these things blindfold. The CCD and CMOS chips used in Nikon DSLRs are manufactured to Nikon design specifications. Actually, I'd guess it's more likely that Nikon have the strict control over what Sony can do with the chips - the chips Minolta, Pentax, and now Sony themselves have used in their DSLRs all trace their parentage back to sensors which first saw the light of day in Nikon cameras. Clearly Sony have the expertise to develop their own DSLR sensors independently of anyone else, but I don't think that's quite what has been happening up to now.
     
  19. dyncoed

    dyncoed Well-Known Member

    I think the reasoning behind this new model that Nikon looks like they'll be bringing out is one of easier cross over for a new slr user.
    If i was coming into new slr territory, i'd want something that could offer me virtually the same controls as i'd been using already, but a scope to have a wider variety of lenses available for me to buy when i wanted, something some bridge camera users i know have already indicated a failiure of theirs after a few months of using it.

    Mark
     
  20. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    Well if thats the case Sony's bid for market place is particulary bold. They will have to go head to head in the entry level market in the near future. When this happens, I think its likely that Sony may consider sticking with a 10mp chip, to keep in line with Canon. This will make the 6mp in the D40 look very jaded. Its their 4th model at this chip density. While its actually nice to see some stability, it will be viewed as a lack of progress. Which brings us back to the start of this strand in the thread.

    Graeme
     

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