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Master of Photography is back May 25

Discussion in 'Talking Pictures' started by RovingMike, May 3, 2017.

  1. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

  2. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    That looks good. I shall pass that on to her.:rolleyes: :)
     
  3. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    I really thought Olympe would pull something good out of this one so was disappointed with her efforts but not in the least surprised by the losing photographer. I wasn't massively impressed with Gillian's output this week either - seemed a bit cliché to me, but at least she thought about it and tried to put some emotion into it which was sorely lacking in the losing images.

    Comewell's work was, in my opinion, the best he'd done in this competition. But I'm not sure that judging on each task's merits alone necessarily gives us the 'best' photographer at the end of the process. I was convinced that Gillian would have gone before now but she has managed to hang on by producing a couple of good results but mainly by not being the worst.
     
  4. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    So betting for the final?

    I have a sneaking suspicion the subject will be right up Comewell's street. Gillian second.
     
  5. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Do you not think Souvid is also a potential?
     
  6. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    He's probably overall the best. Just guessing who will get the last subject best. He's from a very privileged background. Will he be able to relate?
     
  7. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    I think Souvid has been the most consistently good of the lot but I wonder about the 'controversy' his manipulations previously? If Comewell can cling onto some of the empathy and emotion that he brought to this last task he has a good chance of doing well in the final task. It could prove to be right up Gillian's street too.
     
  8. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    Looking at his website and some of his images, then yes, I think he can. As for the controversy, hadn't the filming finished prior to that coming to light?
     
  9. P_Stoddart

    P_Stoddart Well-Known Member

    Exactly, I thought such poor composition in a controlled situation has no excuse. That is not the skill of MOP in my book. Hence my feelings that is booting offence. This is the digital age, you telling me the shooter did not see that on the camera screen?. Then in post?

    But the loser last night had composed nice images so had a level of skill in terms of photography, ok fair enough content maybe bit weak.

    Still told some story about themselves.

    I am getting so optimistic about Gillian, I just wonder if she could actually win this :)

    Am I correct she went against the advice of the guest judge and was proved right? LOL
     
  10. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Think she did, but loser had to do far more than operate a camera correctly. It is all in the content, unless something strange goes wrong. But he didn't have any kind of tearjerker story. He had to invent something.
     
  11. P_Stoddart

    P_Stoddart Well-Known Member

    Come MIke, if the shooter is suppose to be a MOP they cannot make composition errors in controlled setup?

    So because the shooter has a average life they get kicked out? ie happy?
     
  12. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    No, he got kicked out because he was unable to find something in his average life that had depth. Even average lives have elements that others can connect with on an emotional level and he failed to make something more meaningful than basically instagram shots of his life.
     
  13. P_Stoddart

    P_Stoddart Well-Known Member

    I am not even sure the round is valid?

    If the shooter is a very private person might not want to reveal their lives.

    Does not make them a bad shooter? They can still be a MOP?
     
  14. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    In that case, lie and make up a story!
     
  15. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

    Can they? If they don't put *anything* of themselves into their work? I don't think I agree with you there. I didn't think the guest judge's comments about wanting to see them in bed was helpful but there are plenty of ways that he could have conveyed how much his relationship with his girlfriend meant to him without resorting to revealing things about their sex life. If he was less than certain about how he felt with regards to that relationship he could have done something about feeling uncertain...and not necessarily overtly made it about her if that was a dangerous place to go. He just gave the judges technically okay images with no heart.
     
  16. P_Stoddart

    P_Stoddart Well-Known Member

    My problem is if you are guarded person and uncomfortable about revealing your personal life.

    Then in that round you are doomed to fail, yet you could be a great photographer.

    Being able to document your own personal life does not make you a MOP.

    There are many great shooters who have never shot their personal family life. For whatever reason.

    As far as I can see there was nothing wrong from a technical, composition etc view of the images.

    If look at all the images from that shooter they have produced work of a good level, both composition and technical.

    We have take into account the wishes of his family etc. They might not have wanted to reveal themselves.

    So that stop the shooter from being a MOP?

    This is why it is a unfair round. If one shooter has a very private family they cannot reveal much to the judges.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
  17. dream_police

    dream_police Well-Known Member

    To be fair though, if you are that worried about revealing too much about yourself and were concerned about any privacy, then you wouldn't put yourself forward to be a contestant on a TV show and the subsequent attention you may get. They did a similar thing on the last series which I am sure the contestants would have been aware of.
     
  18. P_Stoddart

    P_Stoddart Well-Known Member

    You missed the point, I am not talking about the shooter, I am talking about the shooter's family.

    As full adults we can do what we want, but we cannot force or pull our family into what we want against their wishes.

    Also I doubt those taking part in MOP know the briefs or round contents before they sign up.

    Just because it was part of last year's does not hold it would in this year's. They have altered the format this year.
     
  19. Geren

    Geren Well-Known Member

  20. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Not following you. I made no comment about composition errors. But I guess you don't get ejected for one.

    An average life doesn't call for average shots. If Gillian talked to him for a while, she would be able to portray him better than he did. A big point that Martin Parr made recently was that what he saw as his edge was that he never went to interesting places to do photography. He specialised in extracting something from boring average places and people. I wish he'd come and help me with Bankside :)
     
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