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Letting go......

Discussion in 'General Equipment Chat & Advice' started by pixelpuffin, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    I'm actually embarrassed as to what I'm about to say here.

    I've just amassed far far too much gear....way too much.

    All the fun has gone.

    Years back when I was at college studying photography I had little more than a Pentax K1000 and a standard lens. The college had other lenses I could borrow. But in time I grabbed a 28mm & 135mm. That little kit saw me through the first 2yrs. Obviously I had access to MF and LF cameras. In the college store rooms, lights, enlargers etc etc it was amazing.

    After a couple of years I traded up to the EOS600..oh boy!! What a revelation!!
    Again stayed with the kit until I finished my HND in photography.

    From there on its just gone ass backwards.
    Now working with a family and a disposable income to boot, I've amassed so much stuff it's verging on bring claustrophobic. I simply never know what to take, use etc
    So invariably I just grab a compact and head out the door with my iPhone for off the cuff moments.

    All the while, the ridiculous arsenal of gear sits unused in the spare bedroom. I'd love to let go, but I'm so concious of having regrets later and buying it back.

    Anyone else in the same boat??
     
  2. El_Sid

    El_Sid Well-Known Member

    I have way too much kit if I'm honest...:rolleyes:

    What I tend to do is have is a general set-up of body, wide angle zoom (10-20ish), standard zoom (17-whatever) and telezoom (70-200/300ish) which sits permanently in a bag ready to go. This covers pretty much most of my photographic needs and only gets supplemented if I'm doing something I definitely know won't be covered by the standard gear such as sport or flower photography.

    If my photography has gone downhill is probably less to do with too much kit and more to do with too little effort...:oops:
     
  3. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Sort of. I'm currently dividing my kit into four categories:

    1 Stuff I use all the time (Leicas and Nikons and their related lenses).

    2 Stuff I use seldom, and which is effectively duplicated, e.g. four 4x5 inch cameras. Choose one or two; put the rest in Category 4

    3 Stuff with sentimental attachment, that I might use again, e.g. spare Leicas and Nikons; though some pf this might as well be relegated to Category 4

    4 Stuff I never use and that might as well go. I'm just trying to work out how to shift it. Some might go to specialist dealers; some on the Bay (if I ever figure out how to use it); some to give away.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  4. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    For me it's not having free time or to put it better - feeling guilty that I'm doing something that excludes my family or worse keeps them waiting. The result is I pine for the freedom to do as I wish without feeling selfish. So inenevitably I try to summarise what I "will" need when I finally get my freedom - I don't want to suddenly have to start buying stuff - hence the spare bedroom choc o block.

    There are a few exceptions...
    The 7d and 70-300L 270EX, 40 STM all stay in the large sealed Tupperware along with numerous silca bags. The kit comes out once a fortnight for my son's soccer and is stripped back and returned to the Tupperware immediately after the game - that's it's only use, nothing else.

    Meanwhile
    The 5d hasn't been touched since it came back from canon (mirror repair/sensor clean)
    The 17-40, 200 & 100is all remain unused. As do the 24, 50, 70-210, 28-105, 24-85 consumer lenses.
    Both 550EX's 430EX and other 270EX. Have yet to see use!!!

    Both bellows have yet to see use.
    LX5 never sees use these days
    Not the pair of Sony T30's
    Nikon S1000pj.

    The 3 OM bodies
    With matching 3 50's plus 50 macro and rare 40f2 never see use

    The latest fad
    Sony cyber shot HX80 ( amazing) but I'm more at home with the older HX30!!
    The Olympus Tough does get used for all sporting and water outings that me and my son participate in.

    Thinking it was a size thing I decided to try the M43!!

    Now have GF1 with lens and G2 will be arriving any day.

    In my shoes

    What would you dump??
     
  5. nimbus

    nimbus Well-Known Member

    So long as it is not posing a problem one answer is simply to not worry about it and let it lie there.

    I hold some stuff simply because I like it, even though it sees no use.

    Having said that I can cull reasonably ruthlessly, so here goes. Remember this is what I would do, based on my logic. Keep the 7d and it's lens kit, keep the 5d, you may want it yet and it is now heavily depreciated anyway, keep the 17-40, 50 and 100is, sell the rest bar a couple of flash units. Sell two OM bodies, keep the best one, the best 50mm and the 40, after all a classic.

    Keep the Cyber Shot(s) and the Olympus Tough since they are used. See how you get on with M4/3, if you aren't keen sell it on. I find the Fuji CSCs great when walking around as they are not heavy or bulky and produce excellent quality, you may find you like the Panasonic gear similarly.
     
  6. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    Cheers nimbus

    That's does actually make sense.
    Flash guns - I like the idea of 2 270ex's (both II's) as I have the canon flash trigger. The idea was for macro with the 100is??
    So which big gun? 430ex or one of the 550ex?

    Cheers again
     
  7. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

    Until a few years ago I collected vintage and antique cameras. The collection grew to take over the house, many hundreds of cameras, and associated items. Come retirement I decided to bite the bullet and have great clear out. It was painful but I'm happier now with just few modern cameras I actually use.
     
  8. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    May I ask what you use? I'm intrigued as to what you use on a regular basis as opposed to " what may come in handy " ....clearly my downfall.
     
  9. nimbus

    nimbus Well-Known Member

    Probably the 430EX, it is slightly more recent and closer to the power of the 270s. The bulk of it readily saleable equipment.
     
  10. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

    2 Sony bodies (a900 + a68) and Sony/Minolta lenses 50mm, 20-35mm, 35-105mm, 70-300mm and a 100mm macro (which is my most used lens). Sony flash gun.
     
  11. spinno

    spinno Well-Known Member

    Today I have got rid of one medium format film camera and five lenses, one DSLR, one bridge camera, two flashguns, one m4/3 camera with 3 extra lenses and 1 "pro" digital compact.
    In addition I am also disposing to the local charity shop about half a dozen compacts (digital) and a couple of lenses which have little value but someone may find useful.
    In return for the above I expect to get 1 DSLR and possibly two lenses.(I have 1 DSLR and three lenses, plus my K-01 which has been converted to 720nm ) I feel empowered and will use the kit I will have rather than procrastinating as to what should I use when I want to take pictures.
    I also have a travel zoom compact camera, a bridge camera and some film cameras bits and bobs. I have enough. It is time I realised that and for once I do.
    Now where's the AP mag and the adverts at the back....o_O:rolleyes:
     
  12. Bazarchie

    Bazarchie Well-Known Member

    Is it just my imagination or were you in this position when you returned to the forum a year or so ago? Get rid of everything apart from the 7D and a few lenses. If you get some more free time in years to come, buy a new camera then. Who knows where technology will be in a few years time. All said in jest but there may be a point.
     
  13. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    What do you WANT to shoot when you "get your freedom"? Because your priorities may change. I imagined shooting a lot more large format after retiring. Well, I shoot more, but not a lot more.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
  14. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    Ok, the 100L macro was an impulse buy!! Yep, a 2min whim and bang...there it is!! Crazy I know. Prior to which I had spent a small fortune going "round the trees" as it were, bought 2 sets of m42 bellow (different lengths) then 2 sets of CAF adapters, Plus various adapters to attach various old primes, also purchased Canon 25mm & (2x) 12mm Genuine Canon tubes! Not content went and grabbed the Meike CAF back-back lens adapter, a few more flash guns, numerous macro rails, flash rails etc...and then went and got the bloody 100L!! Don't ask me why, because I don't know. Nor do I know why I got the 200L II & 1.4x II either!!

    I just miss the whole photography bug...badly. Never have the time to just take off and snap things. My family is my life (all of it it seems) and I'm utterly petrified that once my son grows up and no longer needs dad, I'll remember all the times I took off on my selfish quests if I were to do so.

    So, to try and reach a bargaining point with myself I began photographing his soccer, I get a huge kick out of it (no pun intended). The holiday last week in Cornwall was fabulous the Olympus tough compact scored numerous shots whilst we both took turns body boarding. The Sony HX80 with the brilliant pop up EVF gave me that missing link I so badly yearn for in photography - composing a photograph in a viewfinder - wonderful. Then as easy as pie I push it down and the Sony becomes a regular point and shoot.

    I miss photography so much - not surprising as my youth and early 20's were a time of adsolte obsession in taking pictures. I think this is partly why I buy so much stuff, I don't want to let go of what I used to be.

    My next opportunity with my camera gear is to create a book on the evolution of Multitools, another very expensive hobby I began several years ago.

    I've no desire to photograph plants, nor go to the zoo and take a snap of a monkey. I view these as nothing other than pack shots - this began in my college days when my lecturer at the time would ridicule such images... "Ah' a flower" he'd snipe or what ever else I'd lazily presented - now I realise he was actually encouraging me to see further than the obvious and to which I owe him a tremendous amount of gratitude.

    The G2 did arrive today, had a play earlier, what a blast of fresh air... Small, light and incredibly versatile - I need to convince myself I need nothing more if the truth be said.

    It's about images, ideas, vision not what silly format was used or if L glass was the reason why it worked. That's what I need to realise and stop pretending otherwise. I'm not a pro, if the shot fails, then that's okay - try again another day. And chances are iI would enjoy it just as much the second time round.
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2017
  15. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member

    First off, please allow me to apologise to all the members on this forum for my rather obnoxious last post, just re-read what I had posted (using smartphone at work) and I'm cringing with embarrassment - my apologies to all.

    I'd like to point out the reason for all the buying I mentioned in the above post, was due to the fact I had just sold virtually my entire film collection at the time (20+ years worth). As a result I had quite a bit of disposable income sat doing nothing in my paypal account - hence all the kit I bought soon after!! A fool and....

    Maybe I need to add some rather important factors to my OP dilemma.

    Fact is I have NEVER shot Raw - ridiculous when I have spent so much money on L glass and FF camera...stupid!!
    I have only printed 2 pictures off in the past 10yrs! One from my iPhone and the other from my old and very much cherished Sony T30 compact.

    I think that both those revelations should be borne in mind.

    To Roger, What do I want to photograph?
    Aside from my sons Sunday Soccer and other sports he participates in (swimming/karate), the answer is I don't really know.
    As I previously mentioned I'd like to create photo books in the future, My ultimate goal would be to create a single photobook for every year since 2007 (the year my son was born) I have literally 1000's of family snaps that need to be sort out and categorised. Holidays, days out, family, birthdays, xmas etc etc. I'd like to make this a long term project and carry on documenting our family life as opposed to just printing pictures and putting them in albums.
    Also want to create unique photobooks on the multitool collection I own. Although I now no longer actively collect, the collection is actually increasing in value , so will probably hold on to it.
    And finally I'd like to create a unique photobook of my student years, the work I submitted (I am still incredibly proud of some of the pictures I took back then).

    That's basically it. I like the village I live in and have often considered documenting it and perhaps even contemplate having a few postcards printed for friends and relatives ???

    I'm not interested in going out and setting up shots, be it landscape, nature, architecture etc etc. I find that if I type in any subject I can think off in to the search engine and hit the "images" in the task bar they've all been done to death and I have no interest in trying to make my mark so to speak.
    I love the urbex/street scene work, but I find more enjoyment looking at what others have uploaded than going off in search of my own.

    I hope the above has given more insight as to how I am and how I view photography.

    Okay...Kit

    The 7D and 70-300L plus 270 EXii and 40mm STM are not negotiable
    the Oly Tough and sony HX30 are my main stay items.

    The rest is all just sat unused.

    Yesterday I went through all the lenses, both L and consumer with the 5D on a tripod and aperture priority set to F8. I struggled to see ANY noticeable differences, clearly some subtle details and maybe contrast differences, but nothing that leapt off the screen and made me go "WOW"!!

    So,
    Sell the 17-40 and 200 L
    24-85 and 70-210
    both 550EX's

    That will leave me with an old mk1 5d body, 24, 50 & 100mm lenses. 430EX, 270EX & Battery grip
    My view is that if I do decide to get into RAW, then I'm best staying with the FF body and 3 basic primes?

    Sell both bellows and old M42 lenses and all the other silly stuff I purchased for close up and macro work

    Sell the Sony HX80 - incidentally that camera as fabulous as it is, has a major flaw - its rubbish in low light - the focusing just hunts plus the lens will not focus less than 3m when zoomed beyond 300mm - my old sony HX30 (£40 off ebay) focuses every time and will lock onto a subject from 5ft away at 40x - a beast of a camera!!

    My initial thoughts on the lumix GF1 and G2 - I like the idea they share the same lenses (20 & 14-45), batteries and cards yet are completely different in handling - incidentally I have the lumix LVF1 for the LX5...works great on the GF1, so should I keep the LX5 too - considering its worth is pretty derisory and I cannot see it's value going any less.
    The small handling lumix's and tiny lenses are a pleasure to hold and use and yesterday I had a great time just snapping away outside.

    I'd appreciate any comments, feedback, and again my sincere apologies for the above post.

    Incidentally, my username pixelpuffin was chosen in reference to my complete lack of knowledge in this new digital world - I'm still struggling to keep up and invariably with time constraints I switch off and go and do something more familiar...hence the term pixelpuffin

    Thanks to all

    Nick
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2017
  16. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Well, I work on the principal that I photograph anything I come across that interest or amuses me. Which is why I got rid of everything bar my E-M10 and LF1 (which I carry at all times - just in case!).

    Start with that and work outwards?
     
  17. pixelpuffin

    pixelpuffin Well-Known Member


    hmm....

    Cheers for the reply SXH

    I've just spent the past hour reading comments regarding the AF speed of the M43 system...I'm still non the wiser.
    Am I correct in thinking the M43 use Contrast AF as opposed to Phase AF ?
    What I'm getting at is would any of the M43 system line up be able to give me the same results as I get with my 7d and 70-300L?
    I assumed not, but last football season I suffered quite a lot of discomfort using the 7d + BG plus 70-300L on those cold winter sunday mornings. The battery pack is only mounted to ensure that the cold doesn't exhaust my battery too quickly and add balance to the somewhat heavy 70-300L. Fact is on most sundays I came away feeling rough, especially the horrible dull ache in my hands from kneeling down motionless for the full duration of the match.
    I admit I like what I see in the GF1 and G2...a lot!
    If I could be certain that a M43 body and lens could match the 7d kit I currently use, then yes, I would probably dump the lot in favour of a lighter load.

    Infact upon reflection, I would probably dump the entire canon kit and compacts barring the waterproof model. A single camera that could do all I ask seems too good to be true. Sophisticated enough to handle the sunday soccer, but then discreet enough to be used as a travel camera - yes, that would be wonderful
     
  18. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    I certainly have stuff that could not, by the current frequency of usage, have its purchase retrospectively justified.
     
  19. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    Well, I was referring (in my usual ambiguously unhelpful way :rolleyes:) to the subjects to go for, rather than the kit. Oh, and it's just the LF1 I always carry, not both. So a two camera kit is ideal for me - compact always in my pocket, big one for projects and other planned stuff.

    As for contrast versus phase focusing, all my kit is contrast I think, but I've had no problems. But I rarely work with fast moving subjects, so can't help you there. Sorry. I've had Lumix stuff in the past (G3 and G5) and had good results - really nice lenses in my experience - but see my previous caveat.
     
  20. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    AP 16th Sept (in the shops Tuesday) has something to say on this
     

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