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Jeremy Corbyn. How's it looking?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by willie45, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. willie45

    willie45 Well-Known Member

    All right. He's been in the job for nearly two months. How is he doing? Do you think more people or less people are like to vote Labour as a result of his leadership? Are the Tories stronger or weaker as a result of his performance? Is British politics healthier or weaker with him in position?

    I'm not asking if you like him or not. Just how well you feel he's done.
  2. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    He's doing pretty well I think
  3. willie45

    willie45 Well-Known Member

    Probably people know that I didn't want him as leader but I am interested to see how the public are reacting. He's certainly more interesting than most.

    BTW, Phil, possibly a more interesting question is how are you getting on with your Fuji? :)
  4. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    Very well, thank you.

    Even used it for sports photography!!

  5. Atavar

    Atavar Well-Known Member

    I think he's that rarest of creatures - a politician who doesn't play Politics.

    Watching PM's Questions every week has me wondering just what Cameron and the tories are schmoking, gaffawing away like stoned hyenas.

    I once spent the evening in the company of a chap under the effects of a 'herbal relaxation aid' who broke in to gales of laughter at the word "Kettle" was mentioned, while this is my only experience of someone stoned, it resembles the current benches quite closely and it is becoming more and more disconcerting...

    Corbyn has used the Paxman strategy of asking the same question over and over (well, if they don't answer first, second or third time why stop...) to great effect but has been accused of paying the game and quipping back witty platitudes, I don't think this is not by design - why drag yourself down to their level? If they batt an awkward questions about cuts which they promised ​would not happen with a sarcastic response that answers nothing, why dignify it with anything but "please answer the question".
  6. Scphoto

    Scphoto Well-Known Member

    I think he's doing well.

    Not bowing enough at the cenotaph seems to be hanging offence for the media.

    He's pissing off the media, which makes me happy.
  7. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    If he were to get rid of some of his outlandishly daft, nay stupid ideas, then some folk or at least more of them may take something longer than a passing interest. Is he doing any good? Not that I have noticed!
  8. PhilW

    PhilW Well-Known Member

    Such as?
  9. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    I think he's doing well enough, but I'm concerned that he's letting others set the agenda on non-issues like the national anthem, poppies, bowing etc. Also note that he's not likely to win many votes in Scotland, thanks to being poorly briefed and associating himself with Scottish Labour's tribal politics.
  10. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    They might set the agenda, but he quietly follows his own principles. I admire him for not rising to the bait of others.
  11. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    I'm not convinced he has though. Where he has been best is PMQs, challenging the Sisi and Chinese visits etc.
  12. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    I suppose he is doing as well as we can expect a pacifist, socialist with republican anti royalist tendencies to do.
    He hardly shows much empathy with the centre ground of British life, nor much with most of his own party.
  13. Zou

    Zou Well-Known Member

    You say that like they are bad things... :confused:
  14. PhotoEcosse

    PhotoEcosse Well-Known Member

    The only "bad" things resulting from that is that, simultaneously, he has set three branches of the warmongering, fascist, monarchist Fourth Estate against him.

  15. Gezza

    Gezza Well-Known Member

    I think hes doing quite well, at least he would appear to be honest and yes he does have some alternative views but he has been voted in by a good majority to be leader of the opposition which Im fairly certain doesn't make him a dictator.
  16. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Terry,

    He may be a lot closer to the centre ground than is popularly portrayed by the press. Pacifism and socialism are morally the right place to be, though I'm not sure about republicanism because of the terrifying possibilities of President Wilson, President Thatcher, President Blair or (arguably the worst so far) President Cameron. If you want "centre ground", steer clear of that lot.


  17. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    I don't think Corbyn is as ' far Left' as the media and some politicians in the Labour party have/are putting him across as being. I'm also guessing that there is a substantial number of pre-New Labour voters who feel that it doesn't any longer stand for some of the principles it held in the past.

    When Corbyn against the odds (or due to the lack of others offering to take on the job of Leader.) had his name put forward, these people felt that someone who is perceived/labelled as an 'extremist', might well take on board some of Labour's old values?

    As to my own political stance, I suppose some people who know me well, would say I'm 'probably' a Liberal.
  18. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    He won't take political obfuscation for an answer, which is good. He's standing up quietly to his opponents and not indulging in old-style name calling and back-biting.
    He's doing fine so far, but the press will eventually crucify him.

    As for republicanism, my mother said the same thing about possible presidents thirty years ago. I think it was around the Thatcher/Bush era. She terrified me so much I've been a monarchist ever since. And she was definitely not left wing.

  19. AGW

    AGW Well-Known Member

    While there is no doubt, that the right wing press still run the news agenda and are able to generate the "monster" headlines, the generation who are going to vote for him are more likely to get their news from a variety of sources and get bet a more balanced view.
    While the news papers passed comment on the degree of bowing at the cenotaph, there was little coverage of what happened at the close of the ceremony.

    The response to the Andrew Marr interview also shows how the spin works. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34759626
    The BBC decided to ignore the comments that were made about the need to balance defence spend and ensure that the nuclear deterrent was actually worth having and lead on the Corbyn criticism. They then report JC's anger at this criticism. If you can find the video clip of this response, it shows him making a quiet comment leaving a building. So the actual video is dropped in favour of a still photo which could be interpreted as him making an angry speech.

    Folk are not being fooled anymore.

  20. John King

    John King Well-Known Member

    Some of his 'ideas'.

    Reopening the deep coal mines in the North east - what a plonker. There is no infrastructure left from what was built up over 150 years so that's a non starter. How would they transport the coal from the mine to where ever. All the colliery railways are closed. As for using road transport - not such a good idea is it considering the extra polution and congestion.

    Wanting to promote his anti nuclear stance and destroy the deterent that has kept us safe since the 40's

    Promoting his beliefs which are strongly left wing, His sympathies with Russia. If he has pacifist beliefs, how do the sympathies with Russia stand alongside the current Russian 'adventures' in the Ukraine or Syria

    Do I need to go on?

    He's a man still living 40 years ago. Also a bit of a scruffy oik who cannot be bothered to look even remotely tidy.
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2015

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