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Hearing aids

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Bazarchie, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    You need to be referred by a doctor in almost all health districts.. they can have channels set up for use in noisy environments. Mine seem to self balance in noisy places, though my previous ones did not.
  2. Malcolm_Stewart

    Malcolm_Stewart Well-Known Member

    I suffer from otosclerosis, and have had NHS hearing aids since the late 1990s. Initially it was a single analog behind-ear type, and today I have two of the latest Oticon digital types, after requesting a review at my local hospital, about 30 months ago. This was scary - 40dB loss in my better ear, and 60dB loss in the other, on the right. The aids previous to my current ones whistled, and were trouble, but currently I'm well satisfied. I'm conscious that the hearing in my better ear lost some sensitivity around 3 months ago over a short period like a week. My Oticon aids communicate using Bluetooth or similar, and I can kill the sound from behind me if it's bothering me. Very useful when listening to tour guides with traffic noise from behind.

    Only once in all the years I've been wearing aids have I found a properly working hearing loop, that was switched ON, and providing a better sound than I could get with my aids. In one of the most famous National Trust properties, the loop was working, but it was providing as much mains hum as useful signal. I've certainly not found any working at a bank, and yet they all have the signs in place. A local church has its loop beneath a carpet, so that's where it works, and not elsewhere.

    There's a delicate operation which can cure otosclerosis, providing near perfect results, but it hasn't been offered to me, and there's well recognised risks which may be getting more common as surgeons do less microsurgery as the aids have improved...
    Without my aids as at night, I'm very deaf as the figures above would suggest, and my alarm radio's tones drop into deep gaps in my sensitivity spectrum, and as for the smoke alarm....!. .

    I buy my batteries from Boots, as that's cheaper for me than paying the car-park fee at the hospital.

    I did try the hearing aid service offered at my opticians, but it was so unprofessional, that I walked out - same techniques as double glazing salesmen.
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  3. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    Dear Malcolm,

    Have you ever seen them together?

    Mind you, I used to know someone who maintained that Sherpa Tenzing and Noel Coward were the same person, because you never saw them together.


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  4. Roger Hicks

    Roger Hicks Well-Known Member

    When I was in my 'teens, a good friend of mine was once making frantic enquiries on behalf of her friend, whom she feared might be pregnant.

    Fortunately, I was not/ had not been that close to either my friend or her friend.

    Not so much close as overlapping...


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  5. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Specsavers supply NHS free ones as well for all that qualify and you can compare. Not sure NHS supplies the top range ones. Well they told me they didn't.
  6. Bazarchie

    Bazarchie Well-Known Member

    The NHS site suggests anybody with hearing difficulties qualify, no means testing etc. I'll research.
  7. Roger_Provins

    Roger_Provins Well-Known Member

    My wife has just had her first hearing aid (I've been nagging her to get one for years) it was all done on the NHS and free. She far she is very pleased with it and so am I - no more constant "pardons ?" :)
  8. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Get your own hearing tested. Bad acoustics or not, failing to follow individual voices in conversation with background noise is typical of hearing loss. Unfortunately this is still a tricky thing for hearing aids to correct even with directional microphones (they usually have 2 microphones one of which is directional and forward facing )
  9. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    That's the point of the NHS, and which the Tories are trying their best to destroy.

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  10. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Probably what happened with me, I was a bit out of it at the time!

  11. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    I'm fed up seeing this sort of tripe. The Conservative party doesn't want to destroy the NHS. They just want to sell it to their rich friends. That way they'll make the poorest (and therefor most vulnerable) citizens pay a hugely disproportionate part of their income for health care. This is what our great and fine Conservative Party call "the caring society". :rolleyes:
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  12. steveandthedogs

    steveandthedogs Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Nov 10, 2017
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  13. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    You can not compare quality of sound, It takes around at least half an hour to set up a hearing aid to your own hearing. Places like specsavers could never do that for more than one model.
    The NHS supplies all but the miniature in ear type which are not really suitable for all types of hearing loss.
    The supply both siemens and oticon models. Which are the most advanced you can get. They tend to only have one type of outer casing, usually silver. Which is the most inconspicuous. But the innards are the same as privately supplied ones. But not all features are necessarily turned on or set up...but they can be if you need them.

    It stands to reason that the encapsulated micro electronics used in them are standard modules and will be of the same quality and have the same range of features on all those made of the same generation. Largely the experience you get is in how well they are set up. And in this the Nhs audiologists excell with their superior diagnostic equipment and training.

    This is rather like the way Fuji is using the same central components on each generation of their cameras, but fitting them to different bodies. And enabling slightly different features and peripherals. It makes no sense to have to make different sensors and processors. Though Nikon and Canon do seem to do just that, or they simply cripple their lower models somewhat, by using earlier generation processors.
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  14. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Really don't know where you get that from. I have been to NHS, local specialist and Specsavers and poorest in terms of setup was NHS. Really old kit. Best was Specs.

    I got Oticon Spirit first and if they are all someone needs, fine, but they are very basic. I found them quite poor, certainly against the Siemens, which is why I reluctantly decided to shell out. In fact the NHS woman said "If you want good ones you have to go private". But good is whatever you consider it to be.
  15. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Well-Known Member

    I had the Oticon Spirit first, this was more recently replaced by the Oticon spirit Synergy which looks identical, but is totally different.

    Like everything, NHS departments differ and probably have varying degrees of investment , and I have only had experience of two of them, which were both extremely well equipped in a sound proof room, with up to date test equipment. They only moved you on to the hearing aid assessment and set up equipment, after a thorough diagnostic investigation.

    NHS departments can supply both Siemens or Oticon aids depending on your individual needs. they are of comparable quality but differ in detail.
    I would certainly not go by the say so of a single NHS Woman. though it is true at one time the analogue Hearing Aids supplied by the NHS were Dire. But then private ones were little better.

    But I would encourage people to go private, if only to conserve NHS resources.
    In the same way people go to private hospitals for operations. the NHS acts as the long stop to clear up their mess ups.

    Even the previous oticon spirit was multi channel and covered the full spectrum, it could also be programmed for many functions and take various accessories.
    The latest Synergy version includes bluetooth and can be controlled externally. and has other more esoteric attributes.

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