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Hand Inspection at Airports?

Discussion in 'Help Team' started by NDoyle, Aug 22, 2002.

  1. CHIPS

    CHIPS Well-Known Member

    As little as reasonably possible - it has become an extremely unpleasant and unreliable means of getting about and as stressful a start and end to a holiday as man might devise.
     
  2. mikeh

    mikeh Well-Known Member

    Agreed CHIPS!! But... as someone who has had to travel all his working life, it is the only way to sensibly get to see this planet of ours, and, in spite of the hassles (and believe me, I could write a book about the hassles I have had over the last 25 years at airports, in planes etc etc) I wouldn't have missed it for the world.

    As for security hassles, well, that is for everyones safety, and I always bear that in mind when I start to get stressed in that long queue at security.

    But if you think Heathrow/Europe is bad...... you should have tried Baghdad in the good ole days (I mean mid 80's!). Arrive at airport MINIMUM of 3 hours before flight to get thro security...... 3 x rays of everything (carry on and hold luggage) BEFORE you got to the checking in desks....etc etc (I could go on for hours!!!).

    Mike
     
  3. sinister

    sinister Well-Known Member

    As I thought. I have to use air transport as a means of traverling in my line of work. So perhaps I have got use to it. Does not mean I don't get a little frustrated. But is normaly my fellow passenger that is at fault. If you go into a terminal now, you are bombarded by posters about what you cannot take in hand luggage. Then when you check in. Then again at the secruity point. But still some dumb ass hole thinks they can get away with it.

    Also I actuly fly a GA in my spare time. And if you only understood exatly what happpens behind the scenes so to speak you may have a better apprciation as to why the things have to be done.

    <font color=red>Sinister</font color=red>
    <font color=blue>Flash, bang, wallop....Bum, left the lens cap on</font color=blue>
     
  4. sinister

    sinister Well-Known Member

    Agree with you here. Khartoum is a three hour check in . With about the same number of checks.

    But the on I realy felt comfortable with was Izmir Turkey. X-ray all luggage as you enter the terminal. All hand luggage re-checed at passport and air side.

    Also a hold baggage confirmation prior to boarding. At least you new your luggae was in the hold.

    Worst secruity I have come across. Would you believe a MoD Building in London. The MoD police officer did not have the explosive detector switched on.

    <font color=red>Sinister</font color=red>
    <font color=blue>Flash, bang, wallop....Bum, left the lens cap on</font color=blue>
     
  5. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Yeah, I just find it mind-numbingly tedious. But Steve's tight in my experience, it's the passengers who cock the whole thing up. And I would much rather have my films x-rayed than be blown up, oddly enough! That's not to say that the odd security guy hasn't got his brains where he sits, but all in all it pays to be polite, helpful and prepared.

    Nick BSRIPN
     
  6. mikeh

    mikeh Well-Known Member

    Worst I ever had was a British Airways 747 from New York to Heathrow - in mid 80's when hijacking etc etc was rife.

    Got onto the plane with the lady wife.......then realised we hadn't been thorugh any security check for handbagage. Checked with a couple of other passengers - some had been checked, some hadnt.

    Called over the steward (and you will know, with British Airways stewards you keep yorself firmly seated, and NEVER turn your back on 'em!!) and told him that.

    Couple of mins later, he went down the plane asking people if their hand luggage had been checked. If they said yes, he carried on, if they said no he asked them to get off plane and get it checked!!!!!

    I called him over again..... and asked him if he thought any one up to no good was gonna tell him no!! Threw him, that one!!!!

    Anyway, Purser came to see me... asked me if I was complaining. I told him I was defintely complaining, and why were they trying to make out it was ME being difficult.

    To cut a long story short in the end everyone got off and was checked.

    I tell ya - I did not get good service during that flight... but at least I felt reasonably safe!

    Mike
     
  7. Canonball

    Canonball Well-Known Member

    Yeah, he's tight alright! I've<font color=red> NEVER<font color=black> known him get a round in yet!/img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    Geoff
     
  8. sinister

    sinister Well-Known Member

    Ok lads, drinks are on the bar in the lounge.

    <font color=red>Sinister</font color=red>
    <font color=blue>Flash, bang, wallop....Bum, left the lens cap on</font color=blue>
     
  9. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    What's happened to my speling toaday?

    Nick BSRIPN
     
  10. CHIPS

    CHIPS Well-Known Member

    Lest the stick be grasped by the wrong end I was at the receiving end whilst working for an airline too many years ago and am politeness personified - I've had too many unrewarding and tedious occupations to treat people otherwise. Having flown to States, Russia, Ukraine, Middle East, Africa and Glasgow among others it would be difficult to pick out the least pleasant experience but without doubt find Gatwick the most awful hellhole to be stuck in for three hours prior to a two hour flight. Living in Northern Ireland safety is a constant preoccupation - I just fail to see this connection between having film in my bag and being automatically treated as a terrorist suspect. The Police hereabouts under constant threat to life and limb could give the Gatwick Staff several lessons in courtesy. Enough - I might start to get angry.
     
  11. Benchista

    Benchista Which Tyler

    Sorry, CHIPSy, it wasn't aimed at you!
    Having worked in Northern Ireland, and thus flown in and out of both Belfast airports, I would say that they have the politist, most pleasant security staff I've met bar none. And Gatwick is without doubt a hellhole.

    Nick BSRIPN
     
  12. CHIPS

    CHIPS Well-Known Member

    No offence taken - just trying to be clear. Mulling it over I conclude to my own satisfaction that anything which involves masses of people is inherently awful. Concerts, Travel, Sports events,Committee meetings - and the trend is toward bigger and bigger as though someone somewhere believes bigger is better. So planes get bigger and airports can't handle the traffic (human or mechanical) and the connecting trains and buses are overloaded and staff and customers (ha) become fractious and carnivorous. Best flight in recent years was a seaplane hop with 12 passengers - the only airplane in ten years that has taken off and landed on time with me aboard (and the bags within sight). Hours accrued circling over London waiting for slots, hours on the tarmac waiting for buses to make a journey of 200 yards, 13 hours Belfast to Paris and not a word of "Sorry" - waiting in London for the mislaid baggage LORRY to arrive - waiting in Portugal for baggage that never arrived - Luxury Travel ? pull the other one it's got deep vein thrombosis. Told you I was getting overexcited didn't I.
     
  13. Done_rundleCams

    Done_rundleCams AP Forum Ambassador to Canada

    "And Gatwick is without doubt a hellhole"

    Oh, I don't know about that. At least, the
    security guard at Gatwick used the lubricated
    gloves.

    /img/wwwthreads/wink.gif

    Jack

    It's amazing what one can do when one doesn't know what one is doing!/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif
     
  14. Done_rundleCams

    Done_rundleCams AP Forum Ambassador to Canada

    Nick,

    "Ok lads, drinks are on the bar in the lounge.

    Sinister"

    the above might accoutn for your spelling.

    /img/wwwthreads/smile.gif

    Jack

    It's amazing what one can do when one doesn't know what one is doing!/img/wwwthreads/wink.gif
     
  15. NDoyle

    NDoyle Member

    Thanks everybody for the advice (and some interesting stories indeed)! I'm going to try phoning ahead to see about scheduling a visual inspection, and if that doesn't work, I'll just have to take my chances. Thank goodness almost everything is ASA 100 or slower. . . . and will "seed" each Ziplock bag with some of the 3200, to see if that invokes any l/u/c/k sympathy from the X-ray techs. And I'll get as much developed as possible in London. Could anyone recommend a place that can do b&w quickly and at a reasonable price? (Did I mention I'm a p/a/u/p/e/r Egyptology post-grad?) I'll be in the general neighborhood of the British Museum. I think.

    The monopod and tripod (the latter not making the trip to Egypt, unfortunately) will be in the checked baggage, if for no other reason that neither will come anywhere near to fitting in or on my backpack.

    Sharp objects are indeed definite no-gos. I got stopped several years ago by a hysterical security guard who pointed at my handbag, which had just gone through the X-ray. "What is that?? Openupyerbag! What is that??" he _shrieked_. So I did, slowly, carefully. And, upon discovering the offending item, I pronounced, "It is a pair of stork-shaped embroidery scissors." (Sharp objects in general were not an issue at the time....)

    I flew here to England exactly one week after 9/11, a nerve-wracking experience if ever I've had one. The anniversary will be spent at Luxor, perhaps, at 11:00 EDT, in the Valley of the Kings. Wherever I am, I'll be observing (inobtrusively) that moment of silence.

    Thanks again for the help.
     
  16. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Well don't forget to include in your prayers the innocent men, women and children who have been bombed into oblivion in Afghanistan in the name of revenge, sorry, democracy.

    Slimey NRIPN

    i never think when i write
    nobody can do two things at the same time
     
  17. mikeh

    mikeh Well-Known Member

    Just one request for you ------ I am going to Egypt (Cairo and Luxor) with my family just before Christmas. I would be grateful if you could let me know where you went, what you saw that really impressed you etc etc.

    Many thanks in anticipation.

    Mike
     
  18. 0

    0 Guest

    Re: response to slimey's post

    Hear Hear!

    At the risk of being stoned to death, I'm a bit sick of all the money and energy spent on those two little girls that were killed near Soham. Like everyone else I checked the news over and over again while they were missing, hoping beyond hope they'd be found. I'm very very sorry for what happened. Those poor girls. Nobody deserves that, and they were so angelic looking.

    But there are so many children beaten and killed everyday. Can't we put money into children's charities instead of buying more and more flowers, or volunteer to help children instead of forming mobs and attacking the accomplice, not to mention her police escorts, in the police van? Violence begets violence, not prevents it.

    As for Afghanistan, well Bush was governor of Texas, the world leader in executions, obviously presiding over killing is no sweat for El Presidente. Make an acronym of The War Against Terrorism and that spells out Bush pretty clearly.


    <font color=green>I study should be....</font color=green>/img/wwwthreads/frown.gif
     
  19. Brian

    Brian Venerable Elder

    Re: response to slimey's post

    Lisa, I think we might both get stoned( in the non nice sense) over this one. But re the two little girls I agree completely. The lynch mob that screamed outside the courthouse was obscene. People actually drove hundreds of miles many with their children to take part. The whole area around the suspected murder scene was crowded by people searching the fields hoping to find the bodies so that they could claim the reward. Thousands of children every year are murdered, abused sexually or physically, most often by members of their own family. Yet this case because of it's emotive appeal was whipped up by the media to provide entertainment for the masses, I think it is sick.

    Slimey NRIPN

    i never think when i write
    nobody can do two things at the same time
     
  20. Col. Hogan

    Col. Hogan Well-Known Member

    You're quite right.

    Diane
     

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