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EOS 400D-which lens?!

Discussion in 'Lens Matters' started by MrsMc, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. MrsMc

    MrsMc New Member

    Hello,

    I have an eos 400d. My current lens is canon zoom ef 28-105mm. I am a complete beginner but doing some courses soon. I like to take photographs of people (mostly my children) and landscapes etc.
    Which lens would you recommend? My current one has been nice but I'd like a good alrounder for a beginner.

    Help and advice much appreciated please!

    Thanks
     
  2. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    What do you want from a new lens that your current one lacks and what is your budget?
     
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  3. MrsMc

    MrsMc New Member

    To be honest, I don't really know. I find my current lens is lovely for taking up close pics of the children which is a style I like but I would just like to experiment with another lens to extend my knowledge of what they're capable of as it seems to be a minefield.

    What do you think of my current lens? Have you used similar?
     
  4. PeteRob

    PeteRob Well-Known Member

    Hello and welcome.

    In Canon speak the letters EF mean the lens was designed to go on a full-frame camera - full frame is the same size as a film negative. The 400D has a smaller sensor and so captures a smaller part of the image cast that a full frame camera would. This means that 28 mm which was a common "wide" angle on full-frame gives a smaller image on the 400D so I expect that you often find that you are too close to a subject for it to "fit".

    Most cameras like the 400D now come with an EFS 18-55 mm kit lens. I would find this a bit limiting. There is an EFS 15-85 which is reported to be a good all rounder - though I don't know how much it costs. There is a big difference between 18 and 15 mm in the field of view.

    For longer focal length, e.g. for taking pictures of the children in the park, many people speak highly of the EFS 55-250 mm zoom.

    Generally on a crop sensor camera focal lengths shorter than 15 mm I'd class as specialist rather than general purpose because they are suited to certain subjects.
    The same is true for focal lengths longer than about 100 mm but to a lesser degree. Once you are longer than 200 mm, lens quality starts to become increasingly important - or rather lack of quality can show up rather more. This is partly because people expect more of "zoomed in" shots but generally speaking long lenses are unforgiving.
     
  5. andy8442

    andy8442 Active Member

    The Canon 15-85mm EFS lens is an excellent all rounder, probably the closest in quality to an L Series lens Canon make for the cropped sensor cameras. The 15mm end will give you a nice wide view you won't have seen before and so can experiment with. The one problem though is the price of this lens. Even used on Fleabay go for min £250.00, but you'll never lose money on it, and it is that good. Another way to go would be a fully manual lens like the Samyang range. The 85mm is a cracking portrait lens, and you would learn about manual iris and focus, and the art/process of working with a fixed lens.
     
  6. CanonGary

    CanonGary Member

    I started with a 400D and still use it sometimes.

    I'd get yourself a prime lens. A 50mm f/1.8 is good as you can start experimenting with blurring the background to really isolate your subject. Great for close ups of your kids as on a 400D which is a crop sensor the 50mm will act like an 85mm and 85mm is good for portraits. I've got some amazing pics of my kids on my 50mm prime and they're quite cheap too, under £100, maybe even around £50 if you look around a bit.

    Or you could go down the route of something like a 70-300mm. You can zoom in at 300mm to get a full headshot of someone and really blurr the background like the 50mm prime would but also if you're out somewhere with your kids running around playing you can get nice shots of them from a distance. These are around £250-£300 second hand if you go for the Canon version.

    Something to think about anyway.
     
  7. Snorri

    Snorri Well-Known Member

    There is nothing wrong with the 28-105 but like has been pointed out you might have problems with the wide end. I have the the 15-85 and can say it is the best all arounder lens I have owned. But it is an expensive lens, I don't know about second hand prices but you could do a search on the EF-S 18-55 IS II or even the newer STM IS version these are a few years old but very capable lenses that people often think they need to upgrade from. It is great zoom range to star from and should be under £100.
     
  8. RogerMac

    RogerMac Well-Known Member

    It is also worth ringing up the big suppliers and seeing if they have a "white box" or "open box" one available - that's a lens from either a separated kit or similar that is often available at a big discount.
     

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