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Education and religion.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Footloose, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. Footloose

    Footloose Well-Known Member

    This is the kind of thing I would have expected to happen within the 'Bible Belt' in America, but not in the UK! Having said that, we do have fundamentalist Muslim and Jewish 'sects' operating schools which the Department of Education are bearing down on for not providing their pupils with a 'rounded' education (and we are not just talking about the standard religious education pupils are receiving) that in some instances mean pupils find once they have left school, they are ill-equipped to seek employment outside the almost ghetto-like communities they live in.


    There has also been a school where the parents objected to their children, (as part of their religious education) visiting a Mosque! Things like this breed intolerance through ignorance, which then result in racism.
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019
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  2. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    Yes disgraceful, but in this snowflake era, more is only to be expected. They will be millennial parents.
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  3. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

  4. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Replace evolution with natural selection in the vocabulary section or at least explain it as well as selective breeding.

    And those parents who objected shouldn't get to see their kids in a Christmas nativity.
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  5. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    Tell the parents to prove the existence of their god. Require them to produce he/she/it within 14 days or go to jail... :cool:
  6. MJB

    MJB Well-Known Member

    I thought it was only Gammons who just read the headline:rolleyes:
  7. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Nothing wrong with a Christmas nativity. Christians can see it as documentary. Secularists can see it as a good phantasy with a rather cruel ending.
    What have 'Active Evangelicals' got to fear from Darwin Rocks? They can just tell their kids that is a musical play, a piece of fiction. If they fear the influence of a piece of fiction then they have little confidance in the convincing nature of their faith.
    Children need to be exposed to opposing ideas, and need to learn to be discerning.
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  8. Catriona

    Catriona Well-Known Member

    Phiction rules. Phairy stories too! But phor some, it matters. Live and let live I say.
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  9. SXH

    SXH Well-Known Member

    What a shame a significant proportion of them don't.
  10. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

  11. DaveM399

    DaveM399 Well-Known Member

    Ph***ing right!
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  12. Trannifan

    Trannifan Well-Known Member

    The DUP wants this as well......................

  13. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    Doesn't surprise me.
  14. Andrew Flannigan

    Andrew Flannigan Well-Known Member

    If only they'd teach children to say "this is what I believe but it could be wrong". A little genuine humility goes a long way.
  15. Gezza

    Gezza Well-Known Member

    There are quite a few people that could do with learning that phrase.
  16. Learning

    Learning Ethelred the Ill-Named

    To the credit of proper scientists."This is our best model so far. It fits most of the facts. It allows us to make sensible predictions. We will ammend our theories and models when we find more facts. These are the facts that contradict our present models. Science is work in progress."
  17. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Then in high school teach them what speciation means.
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  18. RovingMike

    RovingMike Crucifixion's a doddle...

    It is remarkably equivocal on the issue of whether evolution is fact or theory isn't it?
  19. daft_biker

    daft_biker Action Man!

    Sadly yes.

    Did I ever tell you about the time I got in trouble at primary school for heckling the minister in assembly? He stood in from of the whole school trying to feed us lies as truths and had the full support of the headmaster and deputy head mistress who punished me for pointing out he was talking rubbish.....I didn't get to play on the football team after that.
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  20. Mark101

    Mark101 Well-Known Member

    Faith schools often come up on LBC Radio as a topic for discussion where they will talk a donkeys hind leg off with no conculsions. Personally I don't believe faith school should exist for a number of quite trivial reasons. However, there is a vast number of C of E funded primary schools which have existed since the present schooling system was developed and personally, apart from assembly I don't recall and religious input or influences at the one I attended. But of course the more fundermental the religion the more fundermental the views and influences.

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